Also, fuck the ATF.
Tommy said:I would have told them no, and they can’t do shit about it.
Juggs said:I looked there back in February or maybe it was March and couldn't find a single Glock 19....IIRC. But my brain is muddled these days, so maybe notRIP said:Gunbroker has a ton.Juggs said:Yeah there’s a few factors. By small 9mm, do you mean a compact?
If you’re just interested in a full size and it’s just for protection, there’s really no need to change, just get a larger 9mm. Multi guns means stocking up on different ammo. Sure there’s more oomph to a .45, but a 9mm will kill just the same and you get more rounds in a mag. There’s a lot of arguments over .45 or 9mm.
The plus for sticking with the 9mm is high capacity mags, you already have one, ammo is a lot cheaper, and easier to get. And if you’re ever thinking about an apocalyptic scenario, you’re most likely to come across 9mm ammo. A .40 is probably the next most common these days.
Now if you ever anticipate shooting someone with body armor, I’d go with the .45. Put more of a hurting on them, maybe the armor will protect against 9mm but not an.45, or at least not more than 1 or 2 .45 rounds.
Glock really is best bang for your buck. Always reliable, cheap for extra magazines. The problem is, at least when I was looking a few months ago, I couldn’t find one in stock.
It really is. Then there's the whole argument about strikers being more reliable than 1911's. Although I've never had either of my Kimbers jam on me, I haven't put thousands of rounds through them. Most of us won't shoot them enough or use them in a real world situation where we're going to notice the difference. As you said, the right ammo for home defense will be enough for any intruder or carrying.gargin said:Juggs said:I looked there back in February or maybe it was March and couldn't find a single Glock 19....IIRC. But my brain is muddled these days, so maybe notRIP said:Gunbroker has a ton.
I have Glock 26 gen 4, subcompact 9, which seems to be available. Also have even smaller sig 938 which has been just as reliable as the glock. I like 9s as the whole family can use them... figure a 9 with hyrda shok is plenty of stopping power for home defense etc.
Lol, exactly... and my wife would be knocked on her ass w a 45.Juggs said:I can say my .45s have far better range and accuracy, but I can't imagine I'm ever in a scenario where I need to shoot something 100 yards away and I don't have a rifle with megargin said:Juggs said:I looked there back in February or maybe it was March and couldn't find a single Glock 19....IIRC. But my brain is muddled these days, so maybe not
I have Glock 26 gen 4, subcompact 9, which seems to be available. Also have even smaller sig 938 which has been just as reliable as the glock. I like 9s as the whole family can use them... figure a 9 with hyrda shok is plenty of stopping power for home defense etc.
gargin said:Lol, exactly... and my wife would be knocked on her ass w a 45.Juggs said:I can say my .45s have far better range and accuracy, but I can't imagine I'm ever in a scenario where I need to shoot something 100 yards away and I don't have a rifle with megargin said:I have Glock 26 gen 4, subcompact 9, which seems to be available. Also have even smaller sig 938 which has been just as reliable as the glock. I like 9s as the whole family can use them... figure a 9 with hyrda shok is plenty of stopping power for home defense etc.
I do carry my .45 when I may run into bears instead of the 9mm.Evil gator said:Something to consider is when the shit really hits, there might be zoo animals about so have something that can take down a rhino Tom
I think the concern with caliber vs bear is not freaking the fuck out and shooting at whatever you can hitufgators68 said:You really only need a 22 for that. Just shoot someone in the knee cap, then slowly move away.
Tommy said:When I went on this 8 night trip to AK some years ago, we camped every night along the River, definitely Grizzly country. The outfitter wasn’t happy I brought a .45, he commented it won’t stop a Griz, my reply was I can shoot whoever’s in front of me while we’re running away in the ass, problem solved. They didn’t think that was funny
Juggs said:Yeah, I've been somewhat close to a black bear and felt safe. Getting anywhere near a Griz would probably scare the shit out of me
52:20 said:I'm sure I'd die in grizzly country. I'm too stupid to be cautious enough. I wouldn't approach one, but I generally overestimate how much fear animals have of us. Works fine here in Florida where things do generally avoid you and flee.
Juggs said:Possible pre-emptive goodbye to me or perhaps just some fingers. I've been toying with the idea of making my own gunpowder. It's surprisingly simple with 3 easy to get ingredients and they're making their way into my amazon shopping cart