pg. said:
Huh? Those women are the ones who want to fight! Why do you purport to tell them they are wrong?
If you’d lived under a commie dictatorship you might not be so soft
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Huh? Those women are the ones who want to fight! Why do you purport to tell them they are wrong?
If you’d lived under a commie dictatorship you might not be so soft
Well... when the one lady says we will fight to the death... while holding her 3 month old...I always think the baby is going...."uh.. hold on one second, mom".
And if putin feels really defeated he probably rains nukes on us all as a last act of defiance. I'd think it better they surrender to fight anther day. Their defeat is inevitable unless the sanctions deter putin, which I hope happens... or somebody puts a bullet through his head.
Well that’s the hope - his people rise up and overthrow him.
The bravery of the Ukrainian people have already brought about change - Germany will spend more on defense and less on Russian oil (they should fucking mine their own coal ffs) and us and international companies pulling out of Russia. Everyone is watching.
The bravery of the Ukrainian people have already brought about change - Germany will spend more on defense and less on Russian oil (they should fucking mine their own coal ffs) and us and international companies pulling out of Russia. Everyone is watching.
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I don't think Putin is seriously considering nukes. I'm not even convinced this is a real balls-to-the-wall invasion. The Rooskies have a huge advantage in manpower and equipment, but somehow they haven't managed to level Kyiv (I still want to say "Kiev" though). They should be rolling through like we rolled through Iraq - the initial war shouldn't even be a contest (but the occupation may be a shit-show).
It's really surprising to me that the Russians don't control the skies - I always kind of thought a successful modern offensive requires air superiority. Maybe that's just the US playbook - but it sure seemed effective in both Gulf Wars. Control the skies so you can bomb the shit out of your opponent with impunity.
It's really surprising to me that the Russians don't control the skies - I always kind of thought a successful modern offensive requires air superiority. Maybe that's just the US playbook - but it sure seemed effective in both Gulf Wars. Control the skies so you can bomb the shit out of your opponent with impunity.
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That was my thought as well. None of this feels like a real invasion. More like minor scare tactics.
Juggs said:
Well except that under Putin, they rolled into neighboring areas and never again rolled out.
As to the air thing, I might offer a comparison with our Afghanistan withdrawal and giving up bagram. That was a fucking stupid thing to do and we did it, apparently because Biden is such a hapless dumb fuck who doesn’t know it.
It’s widely reported Putin is nuts - not that much of a stretch that he’s made some similarly stupid decisions
I don't think it's that simple. Not all of Russia's military is there and a big portion of Ukraine's 44 million civilians are choosing to fight. So at what point of military ratio do you consider it worthy to fight?pg. said:
With the Colonials outnumbered 2:1 and no true organized military, far fewer supplies and experienced soldiers, the English alliance with native tribes, 1/3 of the population staunch loyalists to England.... should we have not fought a revolution?
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I think we’re seeing a very weak Russian army compared to what they try to project and I think that’s the reason there was such a build up. They were hoping Ukraine would cower and give up. There probably isn’t much hope in defeating Russia even though they aren’t as strong as everybody thought, but there is some hope. They can fight conventionally as long as they hold ground, and provide a fierce insurgency if they fail.
Their strong defense has rallied the spineless Europeans into giving support and putting some screws to Russia. It’s given Sweden and Finland and easier path into the UN.
The Ukrainians have done more in 4-5 days to damage Russian on the world stage than the west and UN have done in decades.
Their strong defense has rallied the spineless Europeans into giving support and putting some screws to Russia. It’s given Sweden and Finland and easier path into the UN.
The Ukrainians have done more in 4-5 days to damage Russian on the world stage than the west and UN have done in decades.
Precisely! Live free or die juggs and 52!
Also I like that so many of them are like Arnold Schwartzenegger characters from 80s movies
Like tyrants count on humans worry about their lives and loved ones to submit to all sorts of persecution. It’s beautiful to see a people say not just no but fuck no.
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Honestly, the idea that the Russian conventional forces are shitty kind of scares me because it means they could see nukes as a great equalizer.
DocZaius said:
Have to hope his generals kill him first
Evil gator said:
Lol....easy to say when you or yours aren't the ones dying.
I got into a fistfight with a taller much tougher girl over a goddam shared phone pg. you better believe I’d throw a fucking Molotov cocktail at someone trying to take away mg Netflix
I just don't want my golden years to be during a nuclear winter.
pg. said:
who does? I don't think its fair to expect freedom loving mostly hot people should have to lie down to stop it until the next aggression but totalitarian dickhead.
Lol...yeah, I saw Ms. Ukraine is looking to fuck up some russians.
I can't believe there isn't a coup. I'm sure there are generals that do not want to be doing this shit.
pg. said:
We say this about every dictator and it never happens.
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Air superiority doesn’t have to be jets in the skies. Russia and China both have strong anti-air defense systems. The fight they’re in right now the air assets will focus on close air support and intel gathering. Until a NATO country employs fighters there’s little need for Russia to employ large squadrons of fighters.
