Fair. But let's be real, Biden will never be held accountable. I don't believe for a second that shit will be done.
Juggs said:Interesting interview with Lauren Boebert on what's happening. She claims they started negotiations in July with Mccarthy. They were conceding to a lot of what he wanted, but they reached a standstill because Mccarthy basically told them he doesn't need their votes because of the red wave he's creating, so fuck the trumpers. The red wave didn't happen and now he needs those votes, but he's already told them to fuck up months ago and supposedly he's now lying about all the negotiations they had back then and what the holdouts were willing to concede too. So it's more personal/hurt feelings issue.
A big contention point is that Thomas Jefferson wrote in specifically that any 1 member can make a motion to vacate the Speaker position if the party thinks he's doing a bad job. Pelosi was the first to get rid of that so she could rule as she pleases. Boebert and others wanted that re-instated and Mccarthy said no.
Keep the holdout as far as I'm concerned if you want the power to never be questioned. You can't claim to be for the people or abide by the Constitution if you disregard shit that Jefferson put in for a reason.
Fair point, but I don't think it matters. This shit show started with 20 and that number increased. If you have 1, you'll have 5 or 10. I don't give a shit what reasonably low number they choose, but to eliminate it 100% and refuse to reinstate is outright corruption.52:20 said:Juggs said:Interesting interview with Lauren Boebert on what's happening. She claims they started negotiations in July with Mccarthy. They were conceding to a lot of what he wanted, but they reached a standstill because Mccarthy basically told them he doesn't need their votes because of the red wave he's creating, so fuck the trumpers. The red wave didn't happen and now he needs those votes, but he's already told them to fuck up months ago and supposedly he's now lying about all the negotiations they had back then and what the holdouts were willing to concede too. So it's more personal/hurt feelings issue.
A big contention point is that Thomas Jefferson wrote in specifically that any 1 member can make a motion to vacate the Speaker position if the party thinks he's doing a bad job. Pelosi was the first to get rid of that so she could rule as she pleases. Boebert and others wanted that re-instated and Mccarthy said no.
Keep the holdout as far as I'm concerned if you want the power to never be questioned. You can't claim to be for the people or abide by the Constitution if you disregard shit that Jefferson put in for a reason.
Based on what’s going on I don’t want the one vote deal, it’ll be a fucking clown show every time one of these assholes wants attention. Five votes really isn’t that difficult if there is any chance of leadership change and it keeps the clowns from getting that platform by themselves.
He already agreed to the 5 vote version.Juggs said:Fair point, but I don't think it matters. This shit show started with 20 and that number increased. If you have 1, you'll have 5 or 10. I don't give a shit what reasonably low number they choose, but to eliminate it 100% and refuse to reinstate is outright corruption.52:20 said:Juggs said:Interesting interview with Lauren Boebert on what's happening. She claims they started negotiations in July with Mccarthy. They were conceding to a lot of what he wanted, but they reached a standstill because Mccarthy basically told them he doesn't need their votes because of the red wave he's creating, so fuck the trumpers. The red wave didn't happen and now he needs those votes, but he's already told them to fuck up months ago and supposedly he's now lying about all the negotiations they had back then and what the holdouts were willing to concede too. So it's more personal/hurt feelings issue.
A big contention point is that Thomas Jefferson wrote in specifically that any 1 member can make a motion to vacate the Speaker position if the party thinks he's doing a bad job. Pelosi was the first to get rid of that so she could rule as she pleases. Boebert and others wanted that re-instated and Mccarthy said no.
Keep the holdout as far as I'm concerned if you want the power to never be questioned. You can't claim to be for the people or abide by the Constitution if you disregard shit that Jefferson put in for a reason.
Based on what’s going on I don’t want the one vote deal, it’ll be a fucking clown show every time one of these assholes wants attention. Five votes really isn’t that difficult if there is any chance of leadership change and it keeps the clowns from getting that platform by themselves.
pg. said:Dems having their now annual J6 ceremony memorializing all those officers killed by the insurrectionists.
Juggs said:I wouldn't care about it all that much except it only proves the point that the Right will never stick together or do what it takes to stick it to the Left the way liberals will goose step together when they have to
With spiked brass knuckles, guy is an absolute dickbag.Gatorbreeze said:Someone needs to punch Gaetz in the face. Repeatly.
Juggs said:Is that good or bad? Is actually being used on foreign terrorist suspects or is it, as everything else the feds do, grossly abused?