⚖️Law & Order Crimes and trials

Interestingly, premeditation isn't an element of capital murder in Georgia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Georgia_(U.S._state)#Capital_crimes

Murder with one of the following aggravating circumstances:

  • The offender has a prior record of conviction for a capital felony;
  • The offender was in the process of committing another capital felony or aggravated battery, or the offense of murder was committed while the offender was engaged in the commission of burglary in any degree or arson in the first degree;
  • The offender knowingly created a great risk of death to more than one person in a public place by means of a weapon or device which would normally be hazardous to the lives of more than one person;
  • The offender committed the offense of murder for himself or another, for the purpose of receiving money or any other thing of monetary value;
  • The murder of a judicial officer, former judicial officer, district attorney or solicitor-general, or former district attorney, solicitor, or solicitor-general was committed during or because of the exercise of his or her official duties;
  • The offender caused or directed another to commit murder or committed murder as an agent or employee of another person;
  • The capital offense was outrageously or wantonly vile, horrible, or inhuman in that it involved torture, depravity of mind, or an aggravated battery to the victim;
  • The offense of murder was committed against any peace officer, corrections employee, or firefighter while engaged in the performance of his official duties;.
  • The offense of murder was committed by a person in, or who has escaped from, the lawful custody of a peace officer or place of lawful confinement;
  • The murder was committed for the purpose of avoiding, interfering with, or preventing a lawful arrest or custody in a place of lawful confinement, of himself or another;
  • The capital offense was committed by a person previously convicted of rape, aggravated sodomy, aggravated child molestation, or aggravated sexual battery;
  • The murder was committed during an act of domestic terrorism.
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Bad news if you wanted me to fall victim to the shopping cart killer while picking up an order at target - he’s been caught

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/08/us/virginia-alleged-shopping-cart-serial-killer/index.html
 
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-19/a-tesla-on-autopilot-killed-two-people-in-gardena-is-the-driver-guilty-of-manslaughter

Anyone who owns one of these cars knows autopilot isn't meant for you to just lean back and go to sleep. You're still supposed to be in control.
 
They also require you to have your hands on the wheel at all times, though there are ways to hack that. But if it's supposed to stop for you, at one point do you go, "holy shit, this thing isn't stopping" and start slamming on the brakes?

Side question - Do they require both hands on the wheel or just one? Because fuck both hands. Who other than old ass people keep their hands at 10 and 2? That's uncomfortable as hell.

Also, fuck these autopilot cars. Stop making technology so advanced that people become completely helpless without it. I'm starting to buy into the theory that the last great civilizations 10,000+ years ago got so advanced that they didn't know how to survive when shit went south :lol:
 
Juggs said:
They also require you to have your hands on the wheel at all times, though there are ways to hack that. But if it's supposed to stop for you, at one point do you go, "holy shit, this thing isn't stopping" and start slamming on the brakes?

Side question - Do they require both hands on the wheel or just one? Because fuck both hands. Who other than old ass people keep their hands at 10 and 2? That's uncomfortable as hell.

Also, fuck these autopilot cars. Stop making technology so advanced that people become completely helpless without it. I'm starting to buy into the theory that the last great civilizations 10,000+ years ago got so advanced that they didn't know how to survive when shit went south :lol:
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From what I've read, Tesla is the only company that is testing its autopilot feature through customers. I mean, there's something to be said for "real-world" testing, but everyone else in the industry is using employees.
 
Evil gator said:
I’m ? certain that I’ll be killed by one of those things
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Maybe they should do like our city commissioners are trying to do and have all the speed limits lowered. Then when you get hit, it'll just injure and not kill you.

FTR - Most of these pedestrian killed accidents in town lately are the pedestrians fault for not obeying the crosswalk signs or jaywalking. Good ol' liberals, instead of telling walkers to stop jaywalking or waiting for the walk sign at the crosswalk, we'll just cause more traffic issues and blame the drivers for the dumb cunts that step out in front of moving vehicles with a green light :facepalm:
 
Well if you hit a pedestrian with your car you are generally fine. The pedestrian is fucked up or dead.

I walk all the time and can’t tell you how many times I’ve nearly been hit while in a crosswalk during the walk signal, generally by a driver speeding, on the phone and or just not giving a shit.
 
Evil gator said:
Well if you hit a pedestrian with your car you are generally fine. The pedestrian is fucked up or dead.

I walk all the time and can’t tell you how many times I’ve nearly been hit while in a crosswalk during the walk signal, generally by a driver speeding, on the phone and or just not giving a shit.
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I get it. It's just in this case, Gainesville is using cases where the drivers were never charged because the pedestrian was at fault for justification to lower the speed limits because they've been pushing their agenda to reduce people driving for years.
 
Brian Laundrie confessed to killing Gabby Petito in the notebook found near his remains: https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/21/us/gabby-petito-notebook-brian-laundrie/index.html

"A review of the notebook revealed written statements by Mr. Laundrie claiming responsibility for Ms. Petito's death," the FBI's Denver Field Office said in a statement released Friday.

The notebook was discovered in October, in the same area as Laundrie's remains, in Florida's Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park, authorities said. A revolver was found nearby, the FBI stated.
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No word on what exactly he wrote.
 
Federal civil rights trial begins for the cops who didn't kneel on St. George's neck: https://longisland.news12.com/trial-to-begin-for-cops-accused-of-violating-floyds-rights
 
Evil gator said:
Super excited scotus is taking up the sackett case :nanaboner:
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This one? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-agrees-consider-limiting-wetlands-regulation-2022-01-24/

Interesting. The 9th Circuit's opinion has some photos of the disputed "wetlands" at the end.

I can understand the Sackett's frustration - you buy a piece of land, the county and the state give you a permit to build it, and then the EPA stops you halfway through grading and says you have to put it back the way it was and get fined a shitload of money. On top of that, they've been fighting this thing for almost 15 years now with no resolution.

On the other hand, I think it's important to maintain wetlands and I'd prefer if people didn't fuck up the natural wonders of our nation.

I have no idea who's right with regard to the legal issues, though.
 
The issue is federalism in the clean water act - if it’s waters connected to navigable waters then it’s federally regulated and if its not then states do it. The cwa has serious penalties and jail time, so its really problematic how unclear that doofus Kennedy left it. Lighting my ACB candle now
 
DocZaius said:
Evil gator said:
Super excited scotus is taking up the sackett case :nanaboner:
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This one? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-agrees-consider-limiting-wetlands-regulation-2022-01-24/

Interesting. The 9th Circuit's opinion has some photos of the disputed "wetlands" at the end.

I can understand the Sackett's frustration - you buy a piece of land, the county and the state give you a permit to build it, and then the EPA stops you halfway through grading and says you have to put it back the way it was and get fined a shitload of money. On top of that, they've been fighting this thing for almost 15 years now with no resolution.

On the other hand, I think it's important to maintain wetlands and I'd prefer if people didn't fuck up the natural wonders of our nation.

I have no idea who's right with regard to the legal issues, though.
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I'm only going off your words and not reading the link, but given that this is part of my job....

The seller nor the county are under any obligation to say shit other than there are wetlands on site. The baffling part is why EPA was even involved because the very first thing that should happen is a permit through your state's DEP district for the permit before you touch a damn thing. Of course contractor's don't always do that and often start moving dirt "to get a head start" before the permit is approved. In reality, it's not even filling in wetlands that's an issue, you can't even construct within a buffer (typically 30') from the wetland line. This is 100% on the owner for not doing their due diligence. Now the civil/environmental group of your county's review should have red flagged this also, so the best recourse the owner would have is to shift the blame to them.

Irrelevant side note to your thoughts on not fucking up our natural wonders, I'd simply say....who's to say the wetlands are natural? I mean, yeah it's natural NOW....but a lot of our wetlands are man made as a result of other construction. It's even acceptable to fill in wetlands as long as you have the land to mitigate and recreate it elsewhere on the property, though more permitting and shit is involved, but government entities do it all the time. I "replaced" hundreds of acres of wetlands at Cape Canaveral, especially when Blue Origin and SpaceX came a knockin'. Point is, it's never as simple as "don't touch it"....although I agree with the sentiment.

And now that EG's pointed out this is a federal and not a state issue, my entire post is pointless :lol:
 
Juggs said:
DocZaius said:
Evil gator said:
Super excited scotus is taking up the sackett case :nanaboner:
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This one? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-agrees-consider-limiting-wetlands-regulation-2022-01-24/

Interesting. The 9th Circuit's opinion has some photos of the disputed "wetlands" at the end.

I can understand the Sackett's frustration - you buy a piece of land, the county and the state give you a permit to build it, and then the EPA stops you halfway through grading and says you have to put it back the way it was and get fined a shitload of money. On top of that, they've been fighting this thing for almost 15 years now with no resolution.

On the other hand, I think it's important to maintain wetlands and I'd prefer if people didn't fuck up the natural wonders of our nation.

I have no idea who's right with regard to the legal issues, though.
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I'm only going off your words and not reading the link, but given that this is part of my job....

The seller nor the county are under any obligation to say shit other than there are wetlands on site. The baffling part is why EPA was even involved because the very first thing that should happen is a permit through your state's DEP district for the permit before you touch a damn thing. Of course contractor's don't always do that and often start moving dirt "to get a head start" before the permit is approved. In reality, it's not even filling in wetlands that's an issue, you can't even construct within a buffer (typically 30') from the wetland line. This is 100% on the owner for not doing their due diligence. Now the civil/environmental group of your county's review should have red flagged this also, so the best recourse the owner would have is to shift the blame to them.

Irrelevant side note to your thoughts on not fucking up our natural wonders, I'd simply say....who's to say the wetlands are natural? I mean, yeah it's natural NOW....but a lot of our wetlands are man made as a result of other construction. It's even acceptable to fill in wetlands as long as you have the land to mitigate and recreate it elsewhere on the property, though more permitting and shit is involved, but government entities do it all the time. I "replaced" hundreds of acres of wetlands at Cape Canaveral, especially when Blue Origin and SpaceX came a knockin'. Point is, it's never as simple as "don't touch it"....although I agree with the sentiment.

And now that EG's pointed out this is a federal and not a state issue, my entire post is pointless :lol:
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I appreciate your insight. Yes, the fundamental issue in the law suit is whether or not the EPA can regulate the "wetlands." There was a Supreme Court opinion in 2006 that both sides seem to agree governs the issue, but there was some conflicting language among the majority/concurring opinions.

I think this particular "wetland" was probably natural, since it was 300 feet from a pretty big lake; this is from the 9th Circuit's opinion:

In 2004, the Sacketts purchased a 0.63-acre lot near Priest Lake, one of the largest lakes in Idaho. The property is bounded by roads to the north and south. To the north, across Kalispell Bay Road, lies the Kalispell Bay Fen, a large wetlands complex that drains into an unnamed tributary.
That tributary feeds Kalispell Creek, which, in turn, flows southwest of the Sacketts’ property and then empties into Priest Lake. To the south, across another road, is a row of homes fronting Priest Lake. The Sacketts’ property is 300 feet from the lake.
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