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DocZaius said:
I had a business trip over the last few days so I watched the latest Indiana Jones movie on the plane.

Not quite as bad as Crystal Skull, but not a good movie. Everything kind of felt forced, like they needed to put a reference to the original movies in every other scene. Ford was fine, the woman playing his goddaughter was fine as an actress, but they tried to hard to make her be a super-genius con artist who still needed to be rescued by an 80-year-old archeologist.

They leaned too hard into the woo-woo time travel magic stuff that didn't really have any explanation except "Archimedes was a math genius and time travel is all math." The first three movies worked a little better with the supernatural elements because they were deeply tied into religious traditions. It somehow feels more "realistic" if you're seeking an ancient relic that is the subject of an ancient religious text or legend (though the Sankara Stones were not "real," you could tell the writers drew deep on Indian mythology to describe their importance). Crystal skulls and the Antikythera mechanism just don't carry the same kind of gravitas.

I still think they could recast the character and have other adventures with him in his prime. Having most of the film set in the 1960s seems a little too "modern" to me. It's more mysterious and exotic if the adventures are pre-WWII. Like, do we really need to see the iconic map with the line when he's traveling by commercial jet? And because of his age, he didn't have as many good fighting scenes, although Indy did throw a few punches. They wasted a chance to use the comically-overmuscled henchman, who didn't really fight anyone.

Oh, and this didn't make any sense at all (spoilered as it describes specific plot elements):

When Indy and crew get away on the boat, they head west toward Sicily rather than toward Alexandria, where the bad guys were supposed to go. The bad guys realized Indy's not going to Alexandria, but was generally going west and decided to follow. How did they know exactly which town Indy was headed? Lucky guess? If they followed in sight of Indy's boat, I would imagine that they would have been spotted.

Maybe they figured it out based on other clues, I can kind of accept that.

But what I can't accept is that after the bad guys get all the pieces to the titular Dial of Destiny, they make their escape, via a cargo van, to a nearby airfield and hangar where they had secreted a WWII-era bomber and another 20 or so henchmen, all in vintage nazi uniforms. Their plan was to go back in time to 1939, fly to Germany and kill Hitler. How did they know they were going to find the last part of the Dial in Sicily? For all they knew, it was going to be in Alexandria or somewhere else. It all seems like an elaborately-planned operation that could have easily been carried out anywhere. How did they know they'd be in Sicily?

For that matter, how did they know that the Dial was going to open up a "time fissure" in the sky, so they'd need an airplane? None of this shit makes sense.

In short, 2/57 dickbutts. One bright spot was a character played by Antonio Banderas, who is still pretty charismatic even though he's getting older, too.
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Agree with the issues.

The positives: I like that they based the villain on Operation Paperclip and his motive was unique. I liked the nod to Archimedes discover of water displacement to calculate volume of an object. And I liked that the Antikythera, being a real historical relic, was the focus instead of purely supernatural items that we don't know if they existed or not. Oh, I also like that they got time travel right. As soon as I saw
the watch on archimedes, I figured out where it was going. They could never change history, so they got time the time travel paradox right. All they did was fulfill history that has already happened, so I could appreciate that
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I noticed the same issues you did. Major plot holes just to move it along. Oh he's going west. Wait, the boat was damaged and you're just watching them go the entire way in your binos? WTF? Usually there are explanations for how the bad guys show up at the same place, but in this case, every single time it was just "They went there". Like near the tomb, they climbed up there! How the fuck did you know that? Footprints on the cave wall? I don't buy that he figured it one in 1 second based on the light.

You missed one though that stood out worse than any of the rest to me.
Can you fly that (whatever type of plane that was)? I don't know. I've never flown a plane. Yes I can. Then he hotwires a plane, figures out instruments, takes off and flies in a terrible storm without having ever flown a plane? That was just retarded.

I didn't even notice Banderas.
 
Juggs said:
You missed one though that stood out worse than any of the rest to me.
Can you fly that (whatever type of plane that was)? I don't know. I've never flown a plane. Yes I can. Then he hotwires a plane, figures out instruments, takes off and flies in a terrible storm without having ever flown a plane? That was just retarded.
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It was only a little retarded.

Earlier in the movie, he had a makeshift "flight simulator" set up in the hotel, so he at least had a theoretical knowledge of how to fly, how to read instruments, etc.
 
DocZaius said:
It was only a little retarded.

Earlier in the movie, he had a makeshift "flight simulator" set up in the hotel, so he at least had a theoretical knowledge of how to fly, how to read instruments, etc.
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I didn't even notice that. Still, makeshift. No actual experience. I doubt his BS simulator included a severe storm. He was in a hotel room, how much time would he have on that thing? I believe time travel more than that kid entire scene :lol:
 
Juggs said:
weird....I don't know anything about the game. I assume fallout is self explanatory
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The plot is that there was a nuclear apocalypse, but before the bombs fell there were vaults built all over the country. As you play the game you realize that most of the vaults weren't built to save people, but instead were a series of human experiments of varying degree. The landscape is a wasteland, filled with irradiated monsters and people. I will absolutely watch the series. Fallout: New Vegas was my favorite.
 
RIP said:
The plot is that there was a nuclear apocalypse, but before the bombs fell there were vaults built all over the country. As you play the game you realize that most of the vaults weren't built to save people, but instead were a series of human experiments of varying degree. The landscape is a wasteland, filled with irradiated monsters and people. I will absolutely watch the series. Fallout: New Vegas was my favorite.
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Same.
 
RIP said:
The plot is that there was a nuclear apocalypse, but before the bombs fell there were vaults built all over the country. As you play the game you realize that most of the vaults weren't built to save people, but instead were a series of human experiments of varying degree. The landscape is a wasteland, filled with irradiated monsters and people. I will absolutely watch the series. Fallout: New Vegas was my favorite.
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Sounds like a game I'd like. But I also said I was going to get Harry Potter and I never did.
 
Half way through Part 1 S5 of Yellowstone. A far cry from previous seasons. It's flat out boring in some parts. They took a large part of what made the show great, which is RIP and the cowboys and basically reduced them to a random cameo. Too much focus on Beth and the whiny douchebag brother not really a brother whose name I forget because he's the Theon Greyjoy of Yellowstone (easily manipulated, betrays the man who treated him well to please an abusive, scumbag dad). But going all in on the political side, I'm glad they're done after Part 2.
 
I honestly don't remember since it's been so long since I watched Yellowstone, but sometimes I think the Brits have the right idea when it comes to TV - just a couple of seasons and they're over.
 
Evil gator said:
and the seasons are like 4-8 episodes max
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It depends on the writers and the content. Some do just fine going multiple seasons with 12 or even 22 episodes each. Disney went to 6 to 8 episode seasons for Marvel and Star Wars, it worked for some and wasn't nearly enough for others in such expansive universes.

A show with only 4 episodes and possibly only 1 or 2 seasons would just piss me off. Why not just make a damn movie of it at that point?
 
yellowstone season 5 part 2 (why not just fucking call it season 6 at this point) won't come out until Nov of 2024. What in the royal fuck? I thought the release was imminent.
 
The strike killed the production and then there was the whole Kevin Costner fiasco. They had to retool the last episodes without him .
 
Juggs said:
Costner fiasco?
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There was a whole thing. Don't know what is true or not but supposedly Costner wanted to come back and film all his scenes in like 5 days so he could go work on his own movie. Show said not possible. Big standoff and now Costner is gone. They had to rewrite the last episodes.
 
Irish Mike said:
There was a whole thing. Don't know what is true or not but supposedly Costner wanted to come back and film all his scenes in like 5 days so he could go work on his own movie. Show said not possible. Big standoff and now Costner is gone. They had to rewrite the last episodes.
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Good luck with Part 2 then since Part 1 is primarily focused on him.
 


Lots of buzz around this movie. Texas and California teaming up? Well, I guess if more Californians move to Texas it's possible. But I think it's meant to put some ambiguity around who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Then again, President Ron Swanson seems more conservative than liberal, so maybe he's the bad guy.
 
DocZaius said:


Lots of buzz around this movie. Texas and California teaming up? Well, I guess if more Californians move to Texas it's possible. But I think it's meant to put some ambiguity around who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Then again, President Ron Swanson seems more conservative than liberal, so maybe he's the bad guy.
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I think it just moved a little.

The only way Texas and Cali aligned was if the Northern Californians stopped taking it up the ass from the liberals in the big cities and did something about it, maybe with help from Texas.
 
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