😢Whine As Juggs' World turns

[52:20]

There was some of that, but the first woman I was really with more than once was a hot one who was a little wild, I should add that I guess she raped me being 27 when I was 17. I can’t tell you, I don’t need therapy. She kind of set a high bar early and there were a couple others that didn’t just lie there.
One in particular, who I think was trying to get her hooks in a navy guy to keep from being sent back was probably the freakiest I’ve ever been with, but she was motivated.

 

[Juggs]

I had a chinese gal near 20 years ago....very hot....tiny, I thought I was gonna kill her when she had me choke her. No one had wanted that up to that point...she couldn't get off without nearly passing out. I had over a foot and 100 lbs on her. The only freak, good lay out of any of them.

 

[Evil gator]

are guys just so happy to get laid they will go along with stuff like that?

 

[52:20]

are guys just so happy to get laid they will go along with stuff like that?

For the most part, yes. We'll do a lot of things we wouldn't normally do to get up in it.

 

[DocZaius]

are guys just so happy to get laid they will go along with stuff like that?

Yeah pretty much. I have never been with a woman that extreme but when I was young I had a girl ask me to bite her in a sensitive area; I was confused but did it anyway because I was just happy to be there.

 

[Evil gator]

This explains a lot. In hs a friend told me that Tony got Betsy to wear an eye mask during sex and we were like f that. Girls will tell other girls to not do it, guys will be like sure let her dildo your butt

 

[DocZaius]

This explains a lot. In hs a friend told me that Tony got Betsy to wear an eye mask during sex and we were like f that. Girls will tell other girls to not do it, guys will be like sure let her dildo your butt

I think most guys probably don't have those kinds of demands. The only thing I really want is for my wife to at least act like she's also happy to be there.

 

[Evil gator]

This makes me think of the dear Abby where the morticians wife said he made her soak in an ice bath and lay perfectly still during sex

 

[Tommy]

I’m a lucky man.

 

[Panamag8or]

I dated a half-Vietnese chick, back in the day. She wasn't timid.
Once, I got home from work and she had covered the whole bedroom with visqueen and bought oils and whipped cream and stuff. She gave me a hummer in the stairwell of the Oaks plaza.
She also ate shrimp with the shells on, so she may have just been crazy, who knows.

 

[Juggs]

are guys just so happy to get laid they will go along with stuff like that?

To go along with kinks or women who can't suck or do much of anything?

I'm game for an awful lot. In the last few years, I've dated 2 legit masochists, not just a "for fun", but an innate need. Like, being bound and paddled or whipped until they're welted or bruised. One of them was a brat and at first, when I hesitated, she'd start to get ugly and provoke me. For a person with a lot of anger inside, it wasn't that difficult for me to let her have it and then do whatever I wanted to her. Aside from those 2, I've dated a few who were all into the rough, spanking, hard hair pulling, and so on.

I don't have a problem with it. If that's what they enjoy and it pleases them, I'm all for it. I can't very well ask things of her if I'm not willing to do the same. Even if it's not my thing, it can be surprisingly easy to really get into it. What makes it even better is that from my experience, women aren't comfortable asking for certain things from most men. I can get any of them to open up or feel safe, so all their pent up desires or things to try get unleashed on me

 

[Juggs]

I think most guys probably don't have those kinds of demands. The only thing I really want is for my wife to at least act like she's also happy to be there.

I'd agree. The basic is to be enthusiastic and show some passion, don't seem like it's a chore.

However....most women want to try some of those things. In high school that's different, it's all still new. Older women...they're all about trying things like blindfolds, some restraints, public sex or teasing. As I just mentioned in the other post, many are just too afraid to ask. I've gotten the most Conservative of religious women to admit and try things they never thought they would The problem is most men don't know how to go about it and fuck it all up (both talking about it and acting it out). Men (according to basically every woman I've discussed such things with) tend to be too self absorbed, in a rush, no idea how to be sensual or gentle at first, how to progress things. Guys are kinda retarded when it comes to such things. I have endless examples I've been told of experiences gone bad because of it. I think we all know the biggest example ever of this

 

[Evil gator]

Juggs can’t help you with a lady but I found husband material for lil juggs jr

 

[Juggs]

did she say 6 years old? That story is both sad and hilarious

 

[back alley gator]

My experience with them hasn't been great. I mean, super nice, do anything for you....good people. but all but one of the Asians I've been with have been terrible fucks. Most of them have barely, if ever, given head. Their experience is just laying there while a guy climbs on and uses them as a sex doll for 3 minutes and that's it. This one is no different. Incredibly sweet....but timid and shy. Has to be led every step. And the same as every Asian with no real experience, they touch a dick like they're afraid to break it. Submissive is good, timid is not. Normal chicks, you're kissing or they want something, they'll just grab your dick. These chicks, you have to take their hand and put it there for them to do anything.

I may have stepped in it this time. I mean, I try not to mess with chick's feelings. So this one, only been with a couple guys, been married for a long time and widowed from a much older guy 5 months ago. Never had an orgasm. So I ask details...the usual. Never went down on her, never tried to get her off. Just a few months of pump and dump. So I got this vulnerable widow who finally knows what it's like to cum....and she decided she didn't want to drive home in the dark (Lake City) and asks if she could stay the night. I already sleep like shit and she's clearly one of those, has to cuddle all the time types.

Also these asians don't take direction well. By "well", I mean at all. How you want it? You can tell them explicitly and they don't change a thing. Young chicks pick up training decently, but trying to train a near middle aged woman, specifically a timid asian, is damn near impossible and frustrating. I thought this one being married to a white man would have had more experience.

This sounds like a perfect long term opportunity to do what you want to HER. That's very relevant to my interests.

I don't really give a crap what she does to me...its all about what she'll let me do to her in pursuit of her orgasms. Plural. I'm not interested in bondage, choking, dress up, role play kink. As long as it ends with her sweaty, whimpering, and shaking, its been a good time.

 

[Juggs]

This sounds like a perfect long term opportunity to do what you want to HER. That's very relevant to my interests.

I don't really give a crap what she does to me...its all about what she'll let me do to her in pursuit of her orgasms. Plural. I'm not interested in bondage, choking, dress up, role play kink. As long as it ends with her sweaty, whimpering, and shaking, its been a good time.

Oh what she does to me is huge. A woman has to be able to give good head. Luckily she knows she's no good and doesn't know what to do. A quick google and I send her a page that gave excellent instructions, complete with gifs. She greatly improved just after reading that. Did the same thing with cowgirl...she put that to good use this weekend. Almost too much. Show a woman whose never had a good sexual experience what it's supposed to be like...it's just chasing one orgasm after another. But it's killing me I'm in pretty decent shape , but it took her a while to get the groove of how to move her hips, use her legs, etc.....and when something is working, don't stop or it's like starting all over. I was cramping by the end of the night.

I'm pretty torn here, big picture. I've dated a lot of chicks who could really fuck (and were better looking) than this one. Hard to get past that, even as we get older. But this is chick would already do anything for me. A real nurturer, calm, peaceful. But she's been in America for 20 years, a citizen for over half that, and you can tell she stuck to mostly Filipinas other than white husband. I have to explain a lot of what I say to her. Use an expression or a word beyond an 8th grader vocabulary and I have to explain the meaning. I'll tell her something very specific and she asks me what I just explained shortly after. She's just not a smart one....And holy shit, I need some mental stimulation. You know how you occasionally see the old timer Vietnam vets sitting there at a diner with their little old asian wife and they never say a word? I don't know if I have that in me.

 

[Juggs]

The filipina just asked, "Do you miss me yet?"

I've still been seeing her once a day/night a week. She's gotten way too attached quickly. I've avoided this "missing" talk and I've tried to kindly point out guys don't like being put on the spot like that, especially early on. She's shown to be a very sweet, nurturing, and will do anything I ask her to. She's still not good at learning the fun stuff, she's pretty bad.

So, how did all those vets do it? Marry a woman who couldn't hold a conversation? It's hard to meet people, so I'm struggling with the moral conundrum of keeping her around for company/fun or not leading her own and letting her guy because she's dimwitted enough that it gets painful after a while. Trying to look past that, but without good conversation, what are you left with?

 

[Gatorbreeze]

Strickley my opinion, but it's not only the conversation that's important as time goes on, but can she still make you laugh and can you be relaxed around her? My wife is my best friend, and we still laugh at each other pretty much on a daily basis.

 

[Juggs]

Strickley my opinion, but it's not only the conversation that's important as time goes on, but can she still make you laugh and can you be relaxed around her? My wife is my best friend, and we still laugh at each other pretty much on a daily basis.

I'm relaxed around her because she's calm and soothing, but make me laugh? Not particularly. I'm usually the one talking and making her laugh.

One of the main things she has going for her is she's the first chick I've met in a while that didn't always want to be on the go. She's a homebody, where most women today are all about adventure and excitement and living every day to the fullest or all these other cliches that make me want to slap them.

The funny part, I read online or see in podcasts how all these guys want this submissive, traditional asian wife because americans are a PITA. But every time I'm with one, the reality is never as good as the idea. These traditional asians are usually quiet and timid. That's ok sometimes...but all the time? I can't be the one to instigate every single conversation, time we go out, time we fuck, and so on. It gets old being a puppet master

Yeah I've already answered my question and know what I should do if I were being kind.....but since schedules and her living 40 minutes away limits us to 1 night a week, it makes it awful easy for me to be on the lookout for someone else.

 

[Evil gator]

Strickley my opinion, but it's not only the conversation that's important as time goes on, but can she still make you laugh and can you be relaxed around her? My wife is my best friend, and we still laugh at each other pretty much on a daily basis.

My husband and I call keeping it fresh. It often involves a joke about some college football coach from the 90s.

 

[RIP]

Yeah I couldn't be with someone that submissive all the time. It would get boring, quickly.

 

[Juggs]

Yeah I couldn't be with someone that submissive all the time. It would get boring, quickly.

It does, so the 1 day a week works out, but I have no real desire to see her more than that. I can only tolerate for now because my sleep is so fucked up, every day is a question mark on how I feel. So her being happy with just watching tv and fucking is pretty convenient and no pressure. No nagging about a weekend at Universal or a day trip to the beach. I save that energy for the kid

 

[Juggs]

My husband and I call keeping it fresh. It often involves a joke about some college football coach from the 90s.

Yeah, that kind of stuff isn't an option here

 

[Juggs]

Definitely over. I couldn't wait for her to leave Saturday morning. Just no real intelligence, depth, or anything interesting to offer. I clearly started to lose my patience at times.....and not just because she's the absolute worst at anything from kissing to anything remotely sexual and showing zero signs of improving

An example of her dim wittedness....I knotted my lower back up a bit last week, repeatedly bending over and bulling bushes up by the roots instead of using a damn shovel. She offered to give me a massage, so I get the oil and strip. Her massage is like gliding over skin, not actually massaging. Now, I usually get a deep tissue from a gal every couple months (who I can't get ahold of right now). We've talked about deep tissue. So I ask her to go deeper. You can feel the tightness, dig into it.

Her: This is how I do massage.
Me: It's relaxing and feels nice, but it won't help the pain. You have to go deeper.
Her: But this is how I do massage.
Me: Are you saying you're physically incapable of using any pressure? How do you carry groceries or open a jar?
Her: This is how I massage my girlfriends shoulders. I don't want to hurt them.
Me: I'm not your fragile friends. You're 4'11", you can't hurt me. My masseuse stands up and uses her elbow and body weight to dig in to the muscles.
Her: I can't do that.
Me: So you're again saying you're physically incapable of pressing harder?

My God she was pissing me off. She did end up using more pressure, but it was a long, frustrating exchange. And an annoying aside, toward the end, she was massaging my thighs, so she was grazing the junk off and on. Didn't make a single move. Never in my life has a woman been near the junk or hand it right in her hands or face and NOT done something. WTF. She was soaking wet and she still wouldn't.

Anyway.....so I'm going to end it. She's already messaged me early this morning with kissing emojis, which I haven't once returned. I was trying not to just dump her the day she left or day after and seem too cold. But she has so little substance the attempt at conversations are blehhh, not sure I can make it through another day.

 

[Juggs]

I know you're just dying to know.

She didn't take it particularly well. Man this girl is stupid. The day before, she asked me to "make steak for her birthday". So when I told her yesterday, she said, "Is it because I asked for steak?"

Huh? What? FFS. I couldn't tell her, "THAT is why...because you're retarded". I played nice through dozens of questions and nonsense like her saying I ruined her birthday (which is still 3 weeks away). Told her, should I have waited until right after your birthday and strung you along? Told her to stop naming stupid, superficial shit, I already said it's becuase I need mental stimulation and there is no depth here. She asked for clarification: "Please, I'm trying to be nice here, be getting specific will only hurt your feelings. Just accept it and move on".

I tried not to tell her she's too stupid and it was driving me nuts. I'm relieved.