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It bugs me trump said Zelenskyy started the war. He completely had the high ground and then undercuts his support by saying something clearly untrue. I mean Ukraine is sketch but Putin invaded. Just one of trumps unforced errors
 
Evil gator said:
It bugs me trump said Zelenskyy started the war. He completely had the high ground and then undercuts his support by saying something clearly untrue. I mean Ukraine is sketch but Putin invaded. Just one of trumps unforced errors
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IIRC, Z had multiple opportunities to negotiate something better than war, but didn’t, Putin eventually said f it, and invaded. Is that accurate, I’m not sure how right I am.
 
Tommy said:
IIRC, Z had multiple opportunities to negotiate something better than war, but didn’t, Putin eventually said f it, and invaded. Is that accurate, I’m not sure how right I am.
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He did. Where it gets sketchy is why he didn't negotiate. I want to say that I'd read both sides blamed each other. By both sides I mean, Z said Biden told him not to. And only recently have I read that Z himself refused so he could demand support from Biden. But yes, Putin did try to negotiate to just get a better access to the black sea. Where that doesn't make sense to me is looking at the map. I don't know the actual terrain, but solely based on a map, Russia has plenty of access.
 
Evil gator said:
I mean Russia is trying to recreate the ussr and invaded. Theres no real argument that it’s okay.
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I don't care, not our problem. Are we really going to pretend that push come to shove in some insane scenario that the former USSR countries won't side with Russia anyway? As far as I'm concerned, for all intents and purposes, it's still the USSR. Just corrupt countries that get aid from us to "protect" them from big bad Russia.

Fuck them all until it does become our problem.

My argument that it's ok is this: The strong have conquered the weak since the dawn of time. That will never change, no matter how civilized we pretend to be. And I don't give a fuck about them.
 
Now the bot/bot repeaters on FB are all "SHOW ME THE RECEIPTS!".

Apparently everyone on FB thinks everything DOGE has found so far are all lies. It's all a power play to get rid of their enemies. Yeah, someone actually said Musk/Trump were doing this to get rid of their opponents.

You mean those opponents who spent 4 years breaking the law to try to put Trump behind bars? The opponents who targeted moms protesting at school boards?

It's not too late for war, right? RIGHT?
 
Evil gator said:
I snooze anyone posting that stuff. My niece posted something dumb and I missed the fact her cat momo got attacked by an eagle

(Kitty is fine now)
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90% of my feed is FB pushing pages on me I don't want to follow. And I can only snooze them for 30 days. I go on FB and I spend most of the time snoozing all these random left wing pages that pretend to have "moderate" names. I'm getting very close to abandoning FB completely.
 
I follow a bunch of neutral hobby stuff like crafts, sports, bands, travel, architecture so not a lot of crap. If a friend posts something and other friends comment, like someone’s mom dying I see that
 
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