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DocZaius said:
Juggs said:
The best scene in all of Lost is at the end of season 1 at the black rock when Artz is telling them how to handle dynamite and blows himself up.
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That is a good one.

I always liked some of the more dramatic scenes when we still didn't know exactly where the story was going - the light coming on when Locke can't seem to open up the hatch (followed in the next season by the cold open showing Desmond living in the hatch, rockin' out to '70s records) is a favorite. So is "not Penny's boat." There was lot of good stuff in the first four seasons.
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Also great scenes. I just watched the S2 premier last night with Desmond in the hatch. Desmond is one of my favorite characters. And the dramatic stuff in the first 4 episodes is very well done. Ben also has some of my favorite scenes. But Artz blowing up makes me LOL every damn time even though I expect it.

Which brings up a continuity issue at the end of S1. The smoke tries to pull Locke down a hole. Sure seemed like he was going to kill him even though Locke said no. But I didn't think he was allowed to even touch anyone still on Jacob's wall, which of course is at the end of the show.
 
I’m sure the show is full of continuity errors like that. They really had no idea how to conclude the story. Desmond’s arc definitely the best. He was the real hero of the show.
 
Desmond definitely had the best story overall. He’s one of the few characters who wasn’t fucked up in some way. Not compared to the rest. Hurley is the only other one who wasn’t a douche bag of some sort. Well, actually Locke was a good guy who just got a raw deal in life.

Interesting thing I didn’t pick up on the first time I watched it and I’ve never seen it discussed….but I assume the way Locke speaks and views things, the character was named after the philosopher John Locke.
 
Last episode of LOTR. Most of it was yawn. The old comet man has to be Gandalf, right? Other than that, the half whatever they are...boring.

There's still no explanation that I heard of why the island people turned on the elves despite a little bickering. Obviously they have different opinions on what happened, but it doesn't seem like they're going to tell us.
 
Juggs said:
Last episode of LOTR. Most of it was yawn. The old comet man has to be Gandalf, right? Other than that, the half whatever they are...boring.

There's still no explanation that I heard of why the island people turned on the elves despite a little bickering. Obviously they have different opinions on what happened, but it doesn't seem like they're going to tell us.
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I'm guessing the comet guy is either Gandalf or Saruman.

See, here's the problem - Amazon doesn't have the rights to the Silmarillion or Tolkein's other writings. This series is based entirely off the appendices in the Lord of the Rings books. If there is some detail that fleshes out those appendices in one of his other works, they can't use it. So a lot of this shit is a workaround to fill holes in the story.

You want to know about the island people - i.e., the Numenorenas? The Numenoreans were the men who helped the elves defeat Morgoth back in the day. As a reward, the elves gave them the island of Numenor and gave them knowledge and extra long life (200 years for the normies and 300 years for the royal family). The first king of Numenor was actually Elrond's brother - Elrond and his brother were technically only half-elves but Elrond chose to live the elf life, so he got to live forever, whereas his brother chose the life of a man, so he didn't.

Anyway, the elves forbid the Numenoreans from sailing so far west that they could no longer see their island. The elves didn't want them finding Valinor, a/k/a the Undying Lands, where the elves live forever in peace. The Numenoreans eventually got pretty pissed off about that - they started wondering why they don't get to live forever like the elves.
 
DocZaius said:
Juggs said:
Last episode of LOTR. Most of it was yawn. The old comet man has to be Gandalf, right? Other than that, the half whatever they are...boring.

There's still no explanation that I heard of why the island people turned on the elves despite a little bickering. Obviously they have different opinions on what happened, but it doesn't seem like they're going to tell us.
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I'm guessing the comet guy is either Gandalf or Saruman.

See, here's the problem - Amazon doesn't have the rights to the Silmarillion or Tolkein's other writings. This series is based entirely off the appendices in the Lord of the Rings books. If there is some detail that fleshes out those appendices in one of his other works, they can't use it. So a lot of this shit is a workaround to fill holes in the story.

You want to know about the island people - i.e., the Numenorenas? The Numenoreans were the men who helped the elves defeat Morgoth back in the day. As a reward, the elves gave them the island of Numenor and gave them knowledge and extra long life (200 years for the normies and 300 years for the royal family). The first king of Numenor was actually Elrond's brother - Elrond and his brother were technically only half-elves but Elrond chose to live the elf life, so he got to live forever, whereas his brother chose the life of a man, so he didn't.

Anyway, the elves forbid the Numenoreans from sailing so far west that they could no longer see their island. The elves didn't want them finding Valinor, a/k/a the Undying Lands, where the elves live forever in peace. The Numenoreans eventually got pretty pissed off about that - they started wondering why they don't get to live forever like the elves.
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The 2nd paragraph I knew. IIRC, that's also the origin of the DĂşnedain. Descendants of those guys I think.

Did I hear correctly that the sea Captain's son is named Isildur? Given how hard they're trying to tie things in, that has to be the Isildur that hacks cuts off the ring.
 
I really wasn't sure exactly what time period the show was set in given how old the elves are, but it finally truly linked them together with the introduction of Isildur and also indicates the direction the show is going. I'm ok with it, but wish they'd pick up the pace a little
 
Agree. I don't know how many seasons this is set to run for, but I hope they have a good plan for it. I mean, we know how the story will end - Sauron will be defeated and the Ring will either belong to Isildur or at the bottom of a river.
 
DocZaius said:
Agree. I don't know how many seasons this is set to run for, but I hope they have a good plan for it. I mean, we know how the story will end - Sauron will be defeated and the Ring will either belong to Isildur or at the bottom of a river.
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per IMDB, there's not another season in production or anything. This might be a one and done. They'd at least be filming by now, I'd assume, if they were going to make a 2nd episode.

This is a show that LOTR fans watch and many of them are uber nerdy about it. Given all the hate it got long before it was even released, I could see them saying F it and pulling the plug before a season 2.

I don't see how it's a 1 and done unless they do major time jumps, which would be stupid considering how slow it's starting. 8 episodes and 3 in, we've barely made progress.
 
Supposedly 5 seasons?

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-power-five-seasons-fully-planned-out-exclusive/
 
Googled it. Apparently they filmed 2 seasons at once. While 5 seasons are planned, Amazon has only confirmed these 2 so far. I'm guessing they'll wait until after the reviews of the 1st season before filming the 3rd. I have to assume that the casual viewers/fans will outweigh the Tolkien nerds that are hammering the shit out of the show.
 
Most of these show groupies are impossible to make happy, and they’ll watch every single episode no matter how much they whine. I read every Gray Man book, and though the show didn’t really capture the essence of the books (wtf does that even mean :lol: ), I’ll still watch every thing that comes out re Gray Man
 
Tommy said:
Most of these show groupies are impossible to make happy, and they’ll watch every single episode no matter how much they whine. I read every Gray Man book, and though the show didn’t really capture the essence of the books (wtf does that even mean :lol: ), I’ll still watch every thing that comes out re Gray Man
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Absolutely. Even if they hate it, they'll watch it so they can bitch about it. None of them boycott it. The hardcore fanboys are insufferable. Most of us just point continuity eras, woke judgement issues, and random shit but can still enjoy the show.

I'd like to see more of the Gray Man after watching the movie.
 
The premise of the books is he’s basically invisible, meaning he blends in, kind of like he’s there but no one notices. He’s an elite assassin with a conscience. The books are phenomenal
 
Tommy said:
The premise of the books is he’s basically invisible, meaning he blends in, kind of like he’s there but no one notices. He’s an elite assassin with a conscience. The books are phenomenal
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Yeah, a lot of retired special forces guys who do survival and prepping stuff on Youtube talk about being the gray man in a SHTF situation instead of the moron with all his tactical gear and backpack making himself a target.
 
And they've banked off this big time. Designing survival/bugout packs and some gear that look like hiking packs/equipment but have nearly all the features of something tactical.

The reality is none of that matters unless you live in a medium or larger city.
 
Except for the being a highly trained killer part, I've appaarently been doing the grey man thing for a while. I usually blend into a crowd well enough that my wife can't find me, unless I'm wearing a Gators hat.
 
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