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⚡ACHTUNG!⚡ Real Estate opportunity for EG

DocZaius said:
83 acres with trails, creeks and abutting the national forest... seems like a good deal even before you throw in the school bus.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/611-Coppersnake-Holler-Dr-Marshall-NC-28753/2094848230_zpid/

that is a nice deal. We looked seriously at vacation cabins etc in the Va blue ridge but so many of the mountain roads here are unpaved and terrible. And they we just didn't want the hassle, easier to rent and let the owners handle getting things fixed in a remote area.
 
Americans Are Building Vacation-Home Empires With Easy-Money Loans

Selling risky mortgages based on volatile per-night Airbnb income could end badly for communities, borrowers, and investors.

Brenna Carles drives along a winding country road in the Great Smoky Mountains, a get-rich real estate podcast playing on the speakers of her brand-new Lincoln SUV. Not long ago, Carles was belting out tunes at Nashville honky-tonks as she struggled to make it as a country singer. Now, at 32, she’s one of the region’s most successful mortgage brokers specializing in loans for vacation home rentals.

Carles, who started her company less than a year ago, says she’s embarrassed to admit how much she’s clearing these days: $100,000 a month, give or take, on track to earn $1 million this year. “People ask how much I make a year, I try to lie now, because I think people wouldn’t believe it,” she says.

For as long as the market allows, brokers, lenders, and investors are cashing in on the real estate boom in America’s prime vacation spots. They include Carles’s turf, near Dollywood theme park in Pigeon Forge, Tenn., as well as the areas around Disney parks, Colorado ski resorts, and Gulf of Mexico beaches in Texas and Alabama. It’s a fast-growing and potentially risky business, especially now, as the real estate market cools because of higher interest rates.

Landlords have assembled mini empires, managing them from afar using smartphone apps. Software engineers, middle managers, teachers, military personnel—even TikTok influencers—flood social media with stories of newfound wealth. They’re snapping up properties, often sight unseen from out of state, at once unheard-of prices. Some longtime residents complain that these investors are changing the character of their communities and making their housing unaffordable.

A special kind of business loan is fueling the boom. It lets borrowers, including the self-employed, qualify based not on their salaries but on the projected future income of the property they’re buying. In industry jargon, they’re known as “debt service coverage ratio” loans, referring to the way that rents must be at least enough to cover monthly mortgage payments. Last year investment-property loans without taxpayer backing totaled $9.9 billion, an eightfold increase since 2018, according to industry publication Inside Mortgage Finance’s analysis of mortgage bond offerings. The vast majority qualified because of rental income.

What could possibly go wrong?
 
Sounds like a lot of people building houses of cards. I’m trying to be ready for when they crash
 
DocZaius said:
Americans Are Building Vacation-Home Empires With Easy-Money Loans

Selling risky mortgages based on volatile per-night Airbnb income could end badly for communities, borrowers, and investors.

Brenna Carles drives along a winding country road in the Great Smoky Mountains, a get-rich real estate podcast playing on the speakers of her brand-new Lincoln SUV. Not long ago, Carles was belting out tunes at Nashville honky-tonks as she struggled to make it as a country singer. Now, at 32, she’s one of the region’s most successful mortgage brokers specializing in loans for vacation home rentals.

Carles, who started her company less than a year ago, says she’s embarrassed to admit how much she’s clearing these days: $100,000 a month, give or take, on track to earn $1 million this year. “People ask how much I make a year, I try to lie now, because I think people wouldn’t believe it,” she says.

For as long as the market allows, brokers, lenders, and investors are cashing in on the real estate boom in America’s prime vacation spots. They include Carles’s turf, near Dollywood theme park in Pigeon Forge, Tenn., as well as the areas around Disney parks, Colorado ski resorts, and Gulf of Mexico beaches in Texas and Alabama. It’s a fast-growing and potentially risky business, especially now, as the real estate market cools because of higher interest rates.

Landlords have assembled mini empires, managing them from afar using smartphone apps. Software engineers, middle managers, teachers, military personnel—even TikTok influencers—flood social media with stories of newfound wealth. They’re snapping up properties, often sight unseen from out of state, at once unheard-of prices. Some longtime residents complain that these investors are changing the character of their communities and making their housing unaffordable.

A special kind of business loan is fueling the boom. It lets borrowers, including the self-employed, qualify based not on their salaries but on the projected future income of the property they’re buying. In industry jargon, they’re known as “debt service coverage ratio” loans, referring to the way that rents must be at least enough to cover monthly mortgage payments. Last year investment-property loans without taxpayer backing totaled $9.9 billion, an eightfold increase since 2018, according to industry publication Inside Mortgage Finance’s analysis of mortgage bond offerings. The vast majority qualified because of rental income.

What could possibly go wrong?
We've been in Nashville all week and it is crazy here. We got an airbnb just outside of the downtown area. This whole area looks like it is run down, but EVERYWHERE you look airbnb townhouses are popping out of the ground. Like hundreds of them. And none of them are for peolel to live in. Just rent out on airbnb.
 
Juggs said:
Evil gator said:
there is a lot of great real estate here

I've been considering investing in some cheaper land in BFE in one of those states in or near the Appalachians. Even if I never end up using it, it won't be getting any cheaper.

yes I've been pondering that for a while. I'd def get a local realtor to help with all of the paperwork and problems with certain locations.

we were considering buying in austin in 2017, as an investment and potential retirement -even spent half a day touring properties, but didn't want to deal with renting it out, another mortgage and stuff. I just checked and we would have made 320K in 5 years LOLOLOL
 
Evil gator said:
Juggs said:
Evil gator said:
there is a lot of great real estate here

I've been considering investing in some cheaper land in BFE in one of those states in or near the Appalachians. Even if I never end up using it, it won't be getting any cheaper.

yes I've been pondering that for a while. I'd def get a local realtor to help with all of the paperwork and problems with certain locations.

we were considering buying in austin in 2017, as an investment and potential retirement -even spent half a day touring properties, but didn't want to deal with renting it out, another mortgage and stuff. I just checked and we would have made 320K in 5 years LOLOLOL
My parents are on friendly terms with their realtor who does East Tenn and West NC, raised there, she knows the whole area. I'd likely use her if I decide to do it. I believe she also found the land in Tenn that my brother just moved his family onto.

Yeah, there are certain places that I've heard a few people not regretting investing when they had the opportunity years ago. My parents had opportunities 30 years ago in both St. Augustine Beach and in Gatlinburg that would have made them a killing if they had pulled the trigger way back then. Of course they didn't have the expendable income at the time to make it a no brainer.
 

Oh no.


As one can imagine, it was swept away by that point due to the rising waters and was later recovered by Uniontown Water Rescue and Henderson City-County Rescue Squad. The posted on Facebook that they had recovered the camper as it floated downriver. They indicated that after towing the floating vehicle for several hours, it broke into pieces as the hit shallow water pulling it up on a boat ramp. They said they recovered all of the parts they could.

"Not the ending we were hoping for," Uniontown Water Rescue's post said. "But at least it's no longer a navigational issue."

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