this was an email from one of my knuckle-head longhorn buds

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:22 pm

I was looking at offer lists by team and it's almost ridiculous on the breakdown of the number of offers compared to commits.

It's been a month since last years class was wrapped up and here's a breakdown of offers and commits for some of you guys programs and other top programs.

Texas 23- offers, 15 commits, 65% commit
Florida 57- offers, 2 commits, 4% commit
Nebraska- 30 offers, 1 commit, 3% commit
Oklahoma- 38 offers, 0 commit, 0% commit
A&M- 34 offers, 7 commit, 20% commit
USC- 31 offers, 10 commit, 33% commit

What does this tell us? Texas has to be very selective and do an excellent job of evaluating before offering or they will fill up in the first month.

It's the beginning of march and Texas only has probably 5 spots left open. I expect 4 of those spots to fill up with McFarland, Walters, Okafor, and Howell by the spring game (March 29).

Pretty crazy statistics.

any rebut that i can come back with that would shoot him down?

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:27 pm

Texas gets the majority of its kids from in-state and has no other in-state power to compete with. Most kids there grow up wanting to be longhorns, so, when they get an offer, they commit. They just have to identify their top 30 and they'll likely get 20 of them and be almost done with their class...other schools have to do the real evaluation of hundreds of players to figure out which ones they want first.

Also, where is he getting this offer list from?

I highly doubt UF has 57 offers out already...not when we're looking at only having 18-20 open slots.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:29 pm

and if you're buddy comes back saying they have an in-state power in Tex. A&M, remind him UF has two A&M caliber schools or better (USF and UCF) plus having to deal with FSU and Miami.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:52 pm

they compete with OU right?

RickySlade · Post by **RickySlade** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:59 pm

There's no way we have 57 committable offers out right now. I'd say that number is well under 20...maybe less than 10.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:12 pm

they compete with OU right?

sure...but we compete with Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, South Carolina, Ohio State, Michigan, and Notre Dame to name a few...

out-of-state competition will be a wash (or greater in the state of Florida). That's why I focused it to in-state.

annarborgator · Post by **annarborgator** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:28 pm

Yea, there's absolutely no way UF has offered that many kids already.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:12 pm

Tell me that Florida has done a solid evaluation of 57
recruits from California to Florida. Florida recruiting is
basically throw your name in the hat and find out about
the actual person later. That's not evaluating.

Especially when you have 18 spots and send out 57 offers.
Take the committed players and you still have 39 offers out.
Doesn't sound to be an honor to be offered by Florida by the
way they do things.

That's not how Mack works. I'll take Mack's method
over Mr.. Text Message's.

I'll send offer lists of Texas commits later.

Florida Offer List

Pro-style quarterback

Stars

RR

Ht/Wt/40

Hometown

Rank

Schools
Aaron Murray - 6-1/198/- Tampa, FL NR list
Eugene Smith - 6-2/171/4.8 Miramar, FL NR list

Running back Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Bryce Brown - 6-0/212/- Wichita, KS NR Miami
Cierre Wood - 6-0/192/4.5 Oxnard, CA NR list
Lonnie Pryor - 6-1/195/4.5 Okeechobee , FL NR list
Desmond Scott - 5-9/178/4.47 Durham, NC NR list
Edwin Baker - 5-10/195/4.4 Oak Park, MI NR Michigan State
Washaun Ealey - 5-11/205/4.45 Twin City, GA NR Georgia
Michael Ford - 5-10/200/4.56 Leesville, LA NR LSU
Jarvis Giles - 5-11/175/4.5 Tampa, FL NR list

Wide Receiver Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Marlon Brown - 6-5/205/- Memphis, TN NR list
Logan Heastie - 6-2/181/4.3 Chesapeake, VA NR list
Nu'Keese Richardson - 5-8/151/4.45 Pahokee, FL NR list
Jamal Patterson - 6-3/200/4.5 McDonough, GA NR list
Ricco Sanders - 5-11/180/4.4 Duncan, SC NR list

Tight end Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Levine Toilolo - 6-7/234/4.87 San Diego, CA NR Stanford

Offensive tackle Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Xavier Nixon - 6-6/275/- Fayetteville, NC NR list
Nick Alajajian - 6-4/280/- Naples, FL NR list
Chris Freeman - 6-7/325/5.2 Trotwood, OH NR list
Austin Long - 6-6/275/- Memphis, TN NR list
Xavier Su'a Filo - 6-4/270/- Provo, UT NR list
Peter White - 6-4/344/5.2 Washington, DC NR list

Offensive guard Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Chris Burnette - 6-4/290/5.1 LaGrange, GA NR Georgia
Johnnie Farms - 6-3/285/5 Perry, GA NR list

Weakside defensive end Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Nick Kasa - 6-7/232/4.6 Broomfield, CO NR list
Dyron Dye - 6-4/215/4.62 Sanford, FL NR list
Sam Montgomery - 6-4/220/4.44 Greenwood, SC NR list
Olivier Vernon - 6-2/225/4.8 Miami, FL NR Miami

Strongside defensive end Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Devon Kennard - 6-4/238/4.7 Phoenix, AZ NR list
Justin Chaisson - 6-4/252/4.72 Las Vegas, NV NR list
Craig Drummond - 6-5/260/- Chicago, IL NR list
Ryne Giddins - 6-4/225/- Seffner, FL NR list
Donte Moss - 6-4/235/4.6 Jacksonville, NC NR list

Inside linebacker Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Nico Johnson - 6-3/226/4.6 Andalusia, AL NR list
Corico Hawkins - 6-0/218/4.53 Milledgeville, GA NR list
C.J. Mizell - 6-2/212/4.51 Tallahassee, FL NR Florida State

Outside linebacker Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Jarvis Jones - 6-3/205/4.6 Columbus, GA NR list
Frankie Telfort - 5-11/190/4.5 Miami, FL NR list
Dexter Moody - 6-2/205/4.5 Twin City, GA NR Georgia
Petey Smith - 6-0/230/4.5 Seffner, FL NR list

Cornerback Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Dre Kirkpatrick - 6-2/180/4.5 Gadsden, AL NR list
Kenny Vaccaro - 6-1/186/- Brownwood, TX NR Texas

Safety Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Craig Loston - 6-2/193/- Aldine, TX NR list
Ray Ray Armstrong - 6-4/218/- Sanford, FL NR list

Athlete Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Russell Shepard - 6-2/183/4.4 Houston, TX NR LSU
Stephon Gilmore - 6-1/180/- Rock Hill, SC NR list
Donavan Tate - 6-2/195/4.5 Cartersville, GA NR list
Drayton Calhoun - 6-0/175/4.48 Tucker, GA NR LSU
Andre Debose - 6-0/170/4.43 Sanford, FL NR list
Brandon McGee - 6-0/169/4.59 Lauderhill, FL NR list
Greg Reid - 5-9/178/4.5 Valdosta, GA NR Florida

Defensive tackle Stars RR Ht/Wt/40 Hometown Rank Schools
Jacobbi McDaniel - 6-0/267/4.83 Greenville, FL NR Florida State
Jamarkus McFarland - 6-3/280/4.9 Lufkin, TX NR list
Corey Adams - 6-4/272/4.9 Scottsdale, AZ NR list
D.J. Fluker - 6-7/325/4.9 Foley, AL NR Alabama
Gary Brown - 6-3/275/4.67 Quincy, FL NR Florida
Abry Jones - 6-3/250/- Warner Robins, GA NR list
Demonte McAllister - 6-2/240/- Tampa, FL NR list

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:13 pm

how do i come back?

a1bion · Post by **a1bion** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:21 pm

Just call him a clueless phag and call it a day.

Oh and tell him that we'll be back in the title game way before those steers and queers are.

apexgator · Post by **apexgator** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:21 pm

I agree. I don't think those 57 kids have commitable offers. Maybe only letters of interest. IDK.

Hater's right. The difference between Texas and UF is culture and competition from other schools. Like Hater said, most kids in Texas grow up Longhorns. I would venture to say that of their 15 commits the majority are from the state of Texas. Alot of the kids on our alleged list are out of staters who I think we may be trying to show interest in to sway from their in-state school.

RickySlade · Post by **RickySlade** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:19 pm

Tell me that Florida has done a solid evaluation of 57
recruits from California to Florida. Florida recruiting is
basically throw your name in the hat and find out about
the actual person later. That's not evaluating.

Especially when you have 18 spots and send out 57 offers.
Take the committed players and you still have 39 offers out.
Doesn't sound to be an honor to be offered by Florida by the
way they do things.

That's not how Mack works. I'll take Mack's method
over Mr.. Text Message's.

Texas has accepted commitments from 15 high school juniors, and he's claiming WE don't properly evaluate players? There are two kinds of offers, and most of them aren't of the committable variety (from our coaches, anyway). I guarantee you that at least 15 of the 57 players listed would commit if Coach Meyer allowed it/pushed them. That just isn't his style, and I'd bring up the 07-08 recruiting season to prove it. We only had three players committed before the football season began, and almost half of our commitments occurred after the high school season was over and our staff had the opportunity to evaluate the players to a greater extent--both on and off the field. Pffft...

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:12 am

Our staff has had a jump on juniors over almost every school (had a Junior day on the second to last recruiting visit weekend this year)...I assure you, our staff outworks Mack Brown's on recruiting and evaluating. Tell your Longhorn buddy to stuff it. If he thinks we just started right after NSD he is seriously misguided and it's really not even worth your time to argue with that level of ignorance.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:17 am

they're starting to get all pissed with me...there's 4 of em...one is the dad, 2 are his sons, and one is my friend steve (he is their brother in law/son in law)...steve is a cornhusker.

what tipped the scales was me suggesting mac (and i purposely misspell his name) should start abandoning his strategy of concentrating on instate talent...they're proud of the fact that mac has made it his strategy from day one to ingratiate himself to all the high school coaches in an effort to get the skinny on all the high school talent first...i started talking about how mac should start looking out of state since his strategy was not working as well as they would like...i told them that mac could compete on the national stage if he wasn't so stubborn...they're furious now...LOL!

i'm fanning the flames by saying that UT and UF are in totally different markets...one is a national recruiter, the other is a regional one....the regional BEST keep the instates cause if he aint, his strategy aint working...the national recruiter has a broader scope...they're working hard nationally as opposed to regionally...they're fuming.

RickySlade · Post by **RickySlade** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:09 pm

Keep up the good work.

If he thinks proper evaluation = having 65% of the spots for the class of 2009 filled before the class 2008 has had a chance to attend the senior prom, you're probably going to have a difficult time winning an argument (or even getting him to understand your stance) with the twit. Good luck.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:26 pm

^^concur.

the guy knows nothing about watching the development of the senior year.

newsgator · Post by **newsgator** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:30 pm

If you're looking for a quick rebuttal, always go with "Yeah? Well I slept with your mother."

Toothy · Post by **Toothy** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:14 am

^^^ Or:

My pants are down,
My cheeks are flexin',
Just gave birth
to another Texan.

That should rebut many of their points.

Glad I could help out.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:22 am

^^^POSTER OF THE YEARS NEVER REST ON THEIR LAURELS...THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS^^^

toothy is a men among boys. FABULOUS WORK MY GOOD MAN