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📺Television Rings of Power nerdiness (HERE BE SPOILERS)

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Is the high king and the smith guy are lying out of their ass to Elrond or did they completely rewrite the story?

Also, Durin lying about the table because his wife wanted a new one is hilarious.
 
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I don't know if they're lying, but I don't know of anything in the books about mithril containing the light of the Silmarils or the elves needing some kind of metaphysical powerup to survive.
 
DocZaius said:
I don't know if they're lying, but I don't know of anything in the books about mithril containing the light of the Silmarils or the elves needing some kind of metaphysical powerup to survive.
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The silmarils are all accounted for long before this time. One is in the depths of a fire, one was thrown into the sea, and I think someone else has another. It was never in a f'n tree.

It seems like they're setting this up so that Celi Smith dude will end up forging the rings to save the Elves, not out of he stupidity and arrogance he actually did.
 
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How is Galadriel not dead from that pyroclastic flow? I don't think elf-magic is enough to protect her from that ending.
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Maybe this is where they finally show how powerful she is. I don't recall seeing any lava in that rush of....primarily smoke/ash/gas? Which I wouldn't think it would harm an elf all that much. I'm more curious how water caused Mt. Doom to erupt. Sure, nice to see a payoff for why they were digging all those trenches, but it doesn't really make sense. And how did the Numenor know exactly where to go?

Since I was responding, I forgot about this thread....but from the movie thread:

The initial battle results were predictable. I called it as soon as these old men and women started beating them right off the bat.

The dark elf was clever though. Both with the battle strategy and the hilt decoy. But I don't know how the fuck Galadriel or nobody actually unwrapped it to verify that was what they were looking for. They just assumed? Dumb. And Galadriel didn't even know what it was. The black elf just said he can't get away with it. Speaking of the black elf, the giant orc that was beating his ass....why exactly did he not have any kind of weapon? What a stupid fight to have the orc walk up behind him and do the cliche back bump and then just throw him all around. It was an incredibly stupid way to make the woman the hero.

The King of the Southlands whose name I can't remember or spell....surely he's going to become the Witch King.
 
Juggs said:
DocZaius said:
How is Galadriel not dead from that pyroclastic flow? I don't think elf-magic is enough to protect her from that ending.
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Maybe this is where they finally show how powerful she is. I don't recall seeing any lava in that rush of....primarily smoke/ash/gas? Which I wouldn't think it would harm an elf all that much. I'm more curious how water caused Mt. Doom to erupt. Sure, nice to see a payoff for why they were digging all those trenches, but it doesn't really make sense. And how did the Numenor know exactly where to go?

Since I was responding, I forgot about this thread....but from the movie thread:

The initial battle results were predictable. I called it as soon as these old men and women started beating them right off the bat.

The dark elf was clever though. Both with the battle strategy and the hilt decoy. But I don't know how the fuck Galadriel or nobody actually unwrapped it to verify that was what they were looking for. They just assumed? Dumb. And Galadriel didn't even know what it was. The black elf just said he can't get away with it. Speaking of the black elf, the giant orc that was beating his ass....why exactly did he not have any kind of weapon? What a stupid fight to have the orc walk up behind him and do the cliche back bump and then just throw him all around. It was an incredibly stupid way to make the woman the hero.

The King of the Southlands whose name I can't remember or spell....surely he's going to become the Witch King.
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Pyroclastic flow is primarily hot gas and ashes - not lava - but it's deadly to all life. She shouldn't be able to survive it unless elves are sturdier than I thought. I agree completely with the rest of your observations.
 
Pyroclastic can have shots of lava, like the shit shit that was destroying everyone else. Which, what amazing aim Mt. Doom has right? It shoots out a hundred chunks of lava and 2 of every 3 seem to hit someone :lol:
 
I did like her maneuvering and horseman ship. Made for a good action scene.

Still, let's see some real power. I'm pretty sure in Tolkien's work she had powers already, it didn't magically appear in the 3rd age.
 
Juggs said:
I did like her maneuvering and horseman ship. Made for a good action scene.

Still, let's see some real power. I'm pretty sure in Tolkien's work she had powers already, it didn't magically appear in the 3rd age.
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uh, her powers probably appeared when she gets one of the rings of power...
 
Fishon said:
Juggs said:
I did like her maneuvering and horseman ship. Made for a good action scene.

Still, let's see some real power. I'm pretty sure in Tolkien's work she had powers already, it didn't magically appear in the 3rd age.
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uh, her powers probably appeared when she gets one of the rings of power...
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They were exponentially amplified by her ring of power. She had already studied and learned magic in the Undying Lands. Also, her hair was highly coveted for her power and was sought (and declined) for the Simirils, which were created long before the rings of power.

So she wasn't Hobbit powerful when she blasted away Sauron, but she was still powerful enough that in this series, she shouldn't just be a female Legolas.
 
I have not watched the finale yet, but here is a spoiler-filled synopsis: https://www.nme.com/reviews/tv-reca...recap-alloyed-gandalf-sauron-halbrand-3328310

My observations and questions from reading that:

Halbrand is Sauron confirmed. I was wrong, they went with the obvious choice.

So who is the skinny being that burned all the Harfoot's wagons in the last episode? S/he (the figure appears male, but is played by a woman) is called "The Dweller" in the credits, and the synopsis merely says s/he and his/her two companions are Sauron's lackeys. The future Ringwraiths? They don't really seem human to me, and the Nazgul were supposed to be human kings.

We still don't know who the Stranger is, but I'm now in firm "it's Gandalf of course" territory. Never mind that he's not supposed to be in Middle Earth, yet.
 
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DocZaius said:
I have not watched the finale yet, but here is a spoiler-filled synopsis: https://www.nme.com/reviews/tv-recaps/rings-of-power-finale-recap-alloyed-gandalf-sauron-halbrand-3328310

My observations and questions from reading that:

Halbrand is Sauron confirmed. I was wrong, they went with the obvious choice.

So who is the skinny being that burned all the Harfoot's wagons in the last episode? S/he (the figure appears male, but is played by a woman) is called "The Dweller" in the credits, and the synopsis merely says s/he and his/her two companions are Sauron's lackeys. The future Ringwraiths? They don't really seem human to me, and the Nazgul were supposed to be human kings.

We still don't know who the Stranger is, but I'm now in firm "it's Gandalf of course" territory. Never mind that he's not supposed to be in Middle Earth, yet.
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At the very beginning of EP1, when young Galadrial and the other elf children are playing, weren't there 3 robed figures watching them from a hill? I thought they looked like the 3 that are after the Stranger. But going from memory, which is problematic. I agree with you it might be Gandalf but he didn't show up till the beginning of the 3rd age (I think). Wonder if the stranger could be someone like Tom Bombadill, Beorn the bear, or another Wizard?
 
After actually watching the finale...the Stranger is 100% supposed to be Gandalf. I don't know how he suddenly became so eloquent in the last episode, but there it is.

Tying the mithril-will-save-the-elves plot into the forging of the three Elvish rings makes a certain kind of sense, but I don't think it was really necessary.
 
I don't believe for one second he would have actually kept being good if he could bang Galadriel.
 
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