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Enjoy living in hell aka Florida

That road has had Floridian environmentalists and old timers in an uproar for a while now. I think Pan knows more about it.

The reaction is a tad hyperbolic, but it is true that developers have been buying out ranchers pretty rapidly. They're right about FDOT though. It will destroy farms. My ancestor owned a huge portion of what is now in Alachua city limits as a farm....until they put I75 right through it and gave him no access to half his land and he lost a lot in selling it off at that time. What farmer or owner wants to drive 10,15, 20 minutes to the nearest bridge so they can access the rest of their land due to an unnecessary road to BFE? It's stupid.

Their biggest over reaction is to the wetlands impact though. We work around that shit all the time and it's not like it's a huge swatch of land. The wetlands don't get replaced, they get relocated. That part really isn't a big deal.
 
Oh Fucking hell. I stopped to post before I finished reading. So the writer is batshit crazy...Comparing a few critters dying to an apocalyptic land?

Having driven through Pasco and adjacent counties down to Tampa in early 2020, before the pandemic hit, I can attest to the horror of the destruction caused by the new road construction and adjacent road-widening. Heavy bulldozers were everywhere, leveling everything. The sense of bearing witness to the first, vigorous days of the creation of Mordor hung heavy in the air.

You may think this is an exaggeration, but the feeling of dread only grew as I came upon a whole family of seven raccoons slaughtered along the roadside. The mother had clearly gone back for her babies, only to perish with them. Later on, I saw a gopher tortoise eking out an existence on the trough of grass between Route 19 and the decimated area that used to be its home.

On the stretch near Homosassa Springs, a rare Florida mouse, terrified, dodged for its life through four lanes of heavy traffic—just to get to a tiny clump of sod next to a newly erected crosswalk sign. Its palmetto habitat had just been razed by developers.
 
Juggs said:
That road has had Floridian environmentalists and old timers in an uproar for a while now. I think Pan knows more about it.

The reaction is a tad hyperbolic, but it is true that developers have been buying out ranchers pretty rapidly. They're right about FDOT though. It will destroy farms. My ancestor owned a huge portion of what is now in Alachua city limits as a farm....until they put I75 right through it and gave him no access to half his land and he lost a lot in selling it off at that time. What farmer or owner wants to drive 10,15, 20 minutes to the nearest bridge so they can access the rest of their land due to an unnecessary road to BFE? It's stupid.

Their biggest over reaction is to the wetlands impact though. We work around that shit all the time and it's not like it's a huge swatch of land. The wetlands don't get replaced, they get relocated. That part really isn't a big deal.
wetlands get replaced at 2:1 or 4:1 ratio, too.

i just watched an EPA "stakeholder" engagement meeting last night and there was this one "intersectional" person who was talking about some scifi comic where the corporations owned all the water in the world and we were almost there! Enviros can't say anything unless its hysterical
 
Evil gator said:
Juggs said:
That road has had Floridian environmentalists and old timers in an uproar for a while now. I think Pan knows more about it.

The reaction is a tad hyperbolic, but it is true that developers have been buying out ranchers pretty rapidly. They're right about FDOT though. It will destroy farms. My ancestor owned a huge portion of what is now in Alachua city limits as a farm....until they put I75 right through it and gave him no access to half his land and he lost a lot in selling it off at that time. What farmer or owner wants to drive 10,15, 20 minutes to the nearest bridge so they can access the rest of their land due to an unnecessary road to BFE? It's stupid.

Their biggest over reaction is to the wetlands impact though. We work around that shit all the time and it's not like it's a huge swatch of land. The wetlands don't get replaced, they get relocated. That part really isn't a big deal.
wetlands get replaced at 2:1 or 4:1 ratio, too.

i just watched an EPA "stakeholder" engagement meeting last night and there was this one "intersectional" person who was talking about some scifi comic where the corporations owned all the water in the world and we were almost there! Enviros can't say anything unless its hysterical
Yeah, they're lunatics and only hurt their cause. Maybe people would listen if they were more rational about it isntead of freaking out over a field mouse.
 
Evil gator said:
i just watched an EPA "stakeholder" engagement meeting last night and there was this one "intersectional" person who was talking about some scifi comic where the corporations owned all the water in the world and we were almost there! Enviros can't say anything unless its hysterical

Seems like everything is a pop-culture analogy to them, too. Did xe/xim quote Harry Potter, too?
 
DocZaius said:
Evil gator said:
i just watched an EPA "stakeholder" engagement meeting last night and there was this one "intersectional" person who was talking about some scifi comic where the corporations owned all the water in the world and we were almost there! Enviros can't say anything unless its hysterical

Seems like everything is a pop-culture analogy to them, too. Did xe/xim quote Harry Potter, too?

there's nothing I loathe more about this admin and dems in general is that I'm supposed to respect someone for "speaking their truth" even if they are idiotic and out of their depth. Everyone else on this meeting made substantive comments even if I disagree with them.

their linkedin is "Food Systems Futurist and JEDI Activist" wtf
 
Evil gator said:
DocZaius said:
Evil gator said:
i just watched an EPA "stakeholder" engagement meeting last night and there was this one "intersectional" person who was talking about some scifi comic where the corporations owned all the water in the world and we were almost there! Enviros can't say anything unless its hysterical

Seems like everything is a pop-culture analogy to them, too. Did xe/xim quote Harry Potter, too?

there's nothing I loathe more about this admin and dems in general is that I'm supposed to respect someone for "speaking their truth" even if they are idiotic and out of their depth. Everyone else on this meeting made substantive comments even if I disagree with them.

their linkedin is "Food Systems Futurist and JEDI Activist" wtf
I saw we kill them, too.
 
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