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Will it all come tumbling down?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:00 pm
by annarborgator
Awesome ticker today from Karl Denninger. We're being lied to and stolen from--by the people we pay to run our lives. Each of your children is born with the weight of almost $40,000 in debt, not to mention the $190,000 in unfunded liabilities they will each be forced to shoulder.

All because we haven't stood up and done ANYthing to stop the criminals. The inmates run the asylum. Because we LET them. When will we come to our senses? After there's nothing left to save? Will we really only realize what we're losing after we've lost all hope?
How long will you sit while both Democrat and Republican lie to you about how the "bailouts" and "handouts" will help the economy. Has all this grift helped? Did the "stimulus" keep unemployment from going higher as was promised? Did you really get help with your mortgage or were you offered a scam "forbearance" that amounts to the back-end loading of your balance, turning it into a balloon note or worse? Have you enjoyed watching JP Morgan and other big banks that got tens of billions of taxpayer dollars lease tankers and then bid up the price of oil - causing it to double - with your tax money? How about The Fed and Treasury funneling tens of billions in taxpayer money through AIG to a literal "who's who" of big banks so they could in turn pay billions in bonuses?

All of this obviously meets with your approval as demonstrated by your actions: You still sit back and pop a beer, you go about your daily routine, you refuse to rise from your chair and demand: STOP THE LOOTING AND START PROSECUTING, finally willing to back that up with your sacred honor - or more.
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Will we submit to the jackbooted foot of the scammers and frauds on our collective necks, both in business and in DC, until our children starve and our grandmothers, mothers and fathers are shoveled in the hole, dead and cold?

Does America still truly have the capacity, as a people, as a nation, to get angry? To demand redress of grievance? To call, support, and honor a general strike? To take up, keep and bear arms not to commit violence but to stand shoulder-to-shoulder as our Constitution recognizes as our God-given right to prevent violence against not only ourselves but our neighbors - any and all of them? To peacefully occupy The Capitol and shut it down - not to loot, pillage or destroy, but to force the cessation of all commerce in an unmistakable and singular statement: This far you have gone, and you shall take not one step further until each and every guilty man and woman is under indictment, the institutions and businesses responsible are closed, and the ill-gotten gains returned.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1344-Will-It-All-Come-Tumbling-Down.html

Will it all come tumbling down?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:05 pm
by DocZaius
No, we're not angry enough yet. Critical mass is probably 1/3 of the population. Why aren't more people angry? The majority are uninformed, don't pay a whole lot in taxes, and simply don't care.

Short answer: we haven't hit bottom, yet. Just wait until we run into hyper-inflation (like the Weimar Republic) or a real depression (25% unemployment, anyone?).

Will it all come tumbling down?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:11 pm
by TheTodd
Shit would hit the fan if that happened Doc.

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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:15 pm
by annarborgator
Well we're at 16% unemployment now....I give it 12-24 months.

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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:58 pm
by radbag
16%????? where'd you get that?

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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:07 pm
by annarborgator
I look at real unemployment...not the watered down bullshit known as U3.

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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:33 pm
by TheTodd
The Washington Post lists it close to AA's number rad. It is based on the original way the Gov counted unemployment figures.

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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:35 pm
by TheTodd

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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:20 pm
by annarborgator
Note that their number was from May 8th...it got worse in June/July.

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:22 pm
by annarborgator
hey raddy, even the goddamned FEDs are calling it 16% now:
WASHINGTON (AFP) – The real US unemployment rate is 16 percent if persons who have dropped out of the labor pool and those working less than they would like are counted, a Federal Reserve official said Wednesday.

"If one considers the people who would like a job but have stopped looking -- so-called discouraged workers -- and those who are working fewer hours than they want, the unemployment rate would move from the official 9.4 percent to 16 percent, said Atlanta Fed chief Dennis Lockhart.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090826/ts_alt_afp/useconomyrecessionunemploymentbank_20090826182516

LMMFAO.

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:36 pm
by TheTodd
I'm kind of surprised that someone would officially say that from the Fed.

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:51 pm
by annarborgator
Actually, he apparently said it in his personal rather than official capacity...still, surprising to have any official to say it at all:
He underscored that he was expressing his own views, which did "do not necessarily reflect those of my colleagues on the Federal Open Market Committee," the policy-setting body of the central bank.

Lockhart pointed out in a speech to a chamber of commerce in Chattanooga, Tennessee that those two categories of people are not taken into account in the Labor Department's monthly report on the unemployment rate. The official July jobless rate was 9.4 percent.

Lockhart, who heads the Atlanta, Georgia, division of the Fed, is the first central bank official to acknowledge the depth of unemployment amid the worst US recession since the Great Depression.
I just wanted to throw it in the bankster shill's face.