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was going to post this as a response in sliders 'dream on texas' thread but thought this deserved it's on discussion...my thoughts have been borrowed by many here so i'd like to acknowledge those who helped...slider of course for the original thread...toothy for his 'utah has a legitimate beef' post...aa for his conspiracy theories.


basically - i believe the NC will not be determined by thursday's game...i believe the outcry of how ineffective the BCS system is has gotten so popular and loud that even stalwart non-playoff supporters are starting to think playoffs aint such a bad idea...this season has produced a LOT of 1 loss teams that have legit reasons why they should be acknowledged...there's even an undefeated team that surely deserves consideration (todds words)...the coaches have been told to vote in the winner of thursday's game or lose their voting privileges...let's think about that...if you don't care for the system, who cares if your privileges are lost...really?



what we're going to see are 3 types of voters.

type 1 - the BCS supporter and believer that the system truly does produce the national champ ...will vote the winner of thursdays game
type 2 - the BCS non-supporter, wants change to the system and believes there are better ways to produce the national champ...will vote other than the winner of thursdays game just to prove to the BCS that the system is flawed...legitimate #1 contenders are utah, usc, texas
type 3 - the coach who is a company man and follows the directives of the BCS despite their personal views on how effective the BCS system really is


now is as good a time as any for the coaches to band together and create a situation in which the BCS would finally realize that their system has flaws (in the eyes of the coaches)...if you can get 20%-30% of the coaches to vote other than OU or UF, the BCS would foolish not to address this...the coaches will be able to change the face of how the national champion is decided by voting other than thursdays winner...there's really no better time to do it than now given the many options that one would have to vote....this opportunity for the coaches to make changes may not come ever again...it may - but never again as good an opportunity like this.

I think it's an interesting point.

Two responses.

1. As far as choosing the champion of college football, that is and always has been a product of a vote -- not a game or competition. The MNC game doesn't change that, as much as it pretends to. So, yes, a champion will be crowned. It's titillating to think it might not be the BCS's chosen winner, but I believe there isn't enough of a movement to get more than 5% of the coaches to vote outside the BCS's lines.

2. I do agree that a bigger number of coaches voting against the BCSCG winner -- more than just Mack Brown and Kyle Whittingham -- would rock the boat. Not enough to save 2010 or 2011, unfortunately. I sincerely hope that when the BCS contract ends in 2013, the BCS does too. A substantial dissenting vote would help that happen.

PS Fuck the BCS with their "if you don't vote like we say, you lose your vote" tactics. Fuck them. If your system didn't suck so badly, you wouldn't need that rule. It's Soviet in its paranoia.

Rad, you have some great points. But I do think enough people will play along that when be beat OU, we will be crowned National Champions. It goes along witht he argument that they knew the rules when they came in here so they have to play by them. I don't think there will be enough coaches voting against the system to destroy it.

Yea and I'M the conspiracy theorist. :laugh:

90% of the coaches are "company men". Just like you. They tow the fucking line because their money depends on it, not because they think the company is doing the right thing (which is the biggest problem this country faces).

Perhaps you wish more folks would step out and stand up for what they believe is right, but they all think like you. Gotta do what the system tells them without thinking. ;D

depending on how much politicking mack brown has done the last several days, that would make him jimmy hoffa.

ftr - i don't endorse going against the BCS and voting other than tonights winner...but y'all knew that already...just tossing this idea out for all to chew on.

This thread fails.

Coaches poll is out. Looks to me like Kyle Whittingham stood up for something and Mack Brown folded like a -- well, like Mack Brown. One vote for Utah. One wuss at Texas.

I gotta go look at the voting.

Mack Brown, you can't preach all that "I'm gonna vote Texas #1" stuff in front of your team and then follow the herd like a sheep. As a potential recruit I'd have to second guess playing there.

He's a punk.