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Anyone else paying attention to this. Cunningham and Demps arrested for throwing a sandwich and some empty cups last night/this morning.

I saw the link and threads at GC but was so pissed that yet more of our players were arrested that I refused to open them and read. Is that what they were really arrested for?

It's pretty fucking stupid of them if they did it.

Yeah. The story at this point was the dude working there said something about them paying for potato chips and Demps threw a sandwich and C-ham some empty cups. The cops showed up at their dorm and arrested them at 2 whatever in the morning.

Get the fuck out of here. If that is the true story then it will never hold up in court and that officer needs to be dismissed.

I support the police department as much as anyone, but arresting then for that seems like chickenshit. FYI, I would say that even if they attended a school other than UF.

I don't understand why "arresting" is necessary...what is the charge for that? Not that I don't think it isn't "rude" behavior but what was the illegal part of what happened? Am I missing something?

Sophomore defensive end Jermaine Cunningham, a former Gator teammate and one of the nation’s top sprinters were arrested Wednesday morning on misdemeanor charges stemming from an incident in and around a West University Avenue deli, according to Alachua County law enforcement documents.

Cunningham and Jon Demps, a linebacker who played for Florida in 2005, were charged with misdemeanor battery after getting into an argument with a clerk at Jimmy John’s Gourmet Sandwich Shop. Acording to the report, Cunningham threw empty soda cups and Demps threw a sandwich at the clerk when informed they needed to pay for a bag of chips.

Both men were arrested by Gainesville Police on campus at 2:49 a.m., about 30 minutes after the incident. When police approached the men, Xavier Carter, who was walking with them, began running away and continued despite police requests to stop. Police later apprehended Carter, who sprinted and played football at LSU after starring at Palm Bay High School in Brevard County, at 3:10 a.m. and charged him with resisting arrest without violence.

Carter had come to Gainesville last week to start training with UF track and field coach Mike Holloway, according to an entry on Carter’s Web site, http://www.xaviercarter.net. Carter, who has run the second-fastest 200 meters of all time (19.63 seconds), is a 2008 Olympic hopeful.

Carter was the Orlando Sentinel’s Central Florida high school boys athlete of the year for 2003-04 after a career at Palm Bay that saw him tie the state record with nine state track championships. As a senior, he won the 100, 200 and 400 meters on the track and also was a U.S. Army All-American in football.

Cunningham started all 12 games for the Gators this season and shared the team lead in sacks with 6.5. Demps had missed all of the last two seasons with an assortment of injuries, but his time with the football program might be done.

All three men remained in Alachua County Jail as of 12:50 p.m., according to the county sheriff’s office Web site.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports ... -demp.html

It's assault with teh food, dood.

Get the fuck out of here. If that is the true story then it will never hold up in court and that officer needs to be dismissed.

I support the police department as much as anyone, but arresting then for that seems like chickenshit. FYI, I would say that even if they attended a school other than UF.

why? you don't believe in punishing those that act like jackasses?

i don't know the clerk and really, it doesn't matter....clerk trying to earn a paycheck should not be subjected to such douchebaggery...throwing food? throwing cups? don't tell me ttbhg that you think that's excusable? do you think there's ANYTHING in the world that would make that type of behavior justified? top that with the fact that cunningham saw first hand what that type of behavior nets you from mr joiner...we don't need to revisit THAT story because i'm sure we're all in agreement that that behavior was unjustified and uncalled for and is subject to punishment.

now bringing to light that jermaine cunningham has had the benefit of learning from mr joiners first hand experience, i can only deduce several things:

1 - jermaine cunningham has a short memory
2 - jermaine cunningham don't give a fuck
3 - jermaine cunningham makes bad life decisions
4 - jermaine cunningham is easily influenced by friends and his environment

if his excuse is #1, punish him for the bowl game and beyond
if his excuse is #2, punish him for the bowl game and throw him off the team
if his excuse is #3, punish him for the bowl game for his own good
if his excuse is #4, punish him for the bowl game.


i have no tolerance for this bullcrap...these kids acting like jackasses need the book thrown at em and need to be made an example of.

It's assault with teh food, dood.

it's more than that bro.

I don't understand why "arresting" is necessary...what is the charge for that? Not that I don't think it isn't "rude" behavior but what was the illegal part of what happened? Am I missing something?

he should be arrested for 'douchebaggery'

I have no problem with Coach Meyer climbing all in his ass and disciplining him for showing up in the paper under these circumstances. I have no problem with his mother chastising him for being a douchebag with piss poor manners. But. Arrested? Give me a break. At worst write them a ticket for littering. I did not say that nothing should happen but a battery charge for God's sake? He didn't jump behind the counter and beat the hell out of him. He throw an empty paper cup in his direction(did he even hit him?)

battery = the unlawful and unwanted touching and/or striking of one person by another with the intention of bringing about a harmful or offensive contact.

Did he touch him? or Did he throw a cup in his general direction?

I have no problem with Coach Meyer climbing all in his ass and disciplining him for showing up in the paper under these circumstances. I have no problem with his mother chastising him for being a douchebag with piss poor manners. But. Arrested? Give me a break. At worst write them a ticket for littering. I did not say that nothing should happen but a battery charge for God's sake? He didn't jump behind the counter and beat the hell out of him. He throw an empty paper cup in his direction(did he even hit him?)

what point is being made if we wish to know if cunningham hit him or not?

if he missed him, they should throw the book at him for being a bad shot. you don't throw something at a guy and then miss him....what is the intention? to miss?


i appreciate what you're trying to do TT but right is right and wrong is wrong....meyer owes it to the university and future personnel/recruits that he does not take shit.

If the cup/sandwich didn't actually strike clerk, then it's merely a criminal assault, not a battery.

If it's only a simple assault, then the police officer is not permitted to arrest them, unless he witnessed the assault. See Section 901.15, Florida Statutes (note that simple battery is an exception to this rule, but not simple assault).

Here is my point. Haven't you ever got mad and slammed something down, threw something at the wall etc. etc. Everyone has. I think what the kid did was dumb as hell. I am not trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, he is a dumbass. But that ain't battery. He throw an empty paper cup, you do not even know if he threw it at the kid or at the wall on the way out.


If the police report said he jumped across the counter and punched the kid in the face then get rid of him. If he picked up a brick and try to hit the kid in the face with it then get rid of him. We know one fraction of what happened and I am not ready to give the kid the death penalty based off of what Todd posted. Seems really insignificant to me. Trust me, for the sake of being fair, I would say that if the kid played for uga and I hate those fuckers.

If you want to arrest him for that then you better position cops in every single high school cafeteria in the country.

I'll say what I said on GC:

If they weren't big, black men there's no way the cops get called, IMO.

I agree with TT on this. I agree that they may have acted unlawfully (depending on what really happened) but reacting by calling the police isn't warranted in every situation where you witness an unlawful act. Agree they should be disciplined by the team, but the arrest seems out of line re: punishment fitting the crime.

All the articles I've seen indicate the sandwich and cups were "thrown at" the employee. I haven't found a reference yet to any actual contact with the employee.

The employee is a bigger douchebag for calling the cops than Cunningham and Demps are for doing something so immature/rude/etc.

The employee is a bigger douchebag for calling the cops than Cunningham and Demps are for doing something so immature/rude/etc.

why?

i'll just say that everyone here has/had a mother or a father....

picture your mother/father working at a fucking convenience store doing their fucking job with a silly fucking uniform and having to deal with silly, little bullshit and in comes some fucking crew of jagoffs looking to show who the man is by throwing shit around the store...you gonna criticize your father or your mother for calling the cops in that situation....given what has been in the news about sean taylor and all this bullcrap...you sayin to me that you're gonna advise your mother or father that the troublemakers have left and forgot about the incident and there is no way that those troublemakers are outside, waiting in the parking lot so you can come out and they can kick your ass for 'showing them up'

gimme a break.

and besides, are the cops gonna arrest someone for nothing? we don't know what REALLY happened where the police were called in and deemed it worthy to have to haul these kids in...

a) what the fuck is he doing out at 2am with the tony joiner situation so fresh in everyones minds?
b) what the fuck is he doing wilding in a convenience store?
c) where the fuck is this kids head at?

I'm with Radbag.

One of the things these guys should learn during their time at the University of Florida is not to act like fucking morons -- particularly insofar as it involves the law of the land. Represent yourself, represent the school. And the spotlight never goes off.

So don't get in fights, don't beat up your girlfriend, don't drive drunk, don't steal shit. All you're getting is a free education and an apprenticeship to an industry that can make you a millionaire. Don't fuck it up.

Doesn't matter how big and black these guys may be -- which is not to say you don't have a point.

When we begin fudging these fundamental rules of civil behavior, we become Florida State.

my mother and father have both dealt with multiple situations where they were equally insulted/threatened and did not call the cops on the offender.

my mom had one of my brother's teachers come across a table at her because she got really fucking pissed at my mom in a meeting. because my mom called her out on unfair practices in her class that affected my brother. the woman literally came across the table. with her hands raised. the asst. principal had to restrain the woman. my mom didn't call the cops. she didn't file a report with the school board or any bullshit. she talked to the asst. principal and the principal after the meeting, got everything straightened out and the teacher was disciplined in-house according to the school's policies.

You guys are assuming that these are normal guys. This is going to sound bad and there is no other way to say it. Most of these kids are inner city hood rats. You talk about them like they are intelligent thoughtful human beings. If it wasn't for a football scholly they would be slingin' drugs or something. I love and respect these guys for playing for our University but listen to postgame interviews. Actually listen to these kids talk....They are not like me and you and you can't expect them to act like us.


That sounds bad, but it is reality.

oh I believe in civil behavior. my problem is why are the cops necessary? why should these two 20 yr old kids spend hours locked up behind fucking bars for some BULLFUCKINGSHIT? i can understand if you say they need some sort of discipline or punishment. if you say so. me, i think punishment and discipline only go so far. of course you can't simply let people slide. but rad, have you ever been in jail? have you ever seen a cell? ever dealt with that whole situation? i'm just curious what your level of experience is with the criminal system.

i dunno. i don't take the power of police or the physical restriction of personal freedom lightly.