I'm Speechless After This Week's Events

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a1bion
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Post by a1bion »

I'm just going to let my favorite financial blog sum it up, because Ritholtz does it better than I could:
I am having a hard time keeping up with all of the bailouts and special facilities created for dealing with this crisis. Am I missing any?

- Bear Stearns
- Economic Stimulus progam
- Housing Bailout Program
- Fannie & Freddie
- AIG
- No Short selling rules
- Fed liquidity programs (Term Lending facility, Term Auction facility)
- Money Market fund insurance program
- Special Loans for GM & Ford
- New RTC type program

If you are a fan of irony, consider this: The conservative movement has utterly hated FDR, and his New Deal programs like Medicaid, Social Security, FDIC, Fannie Mae (1938), and the SEC for nearly 80 years. And for the past 8 years, a conservative was in the White House, with a very conservative agenda. For something like 16 of the past 18 years, the conservative dominated GOP has controlled Congress. Those are the facts.

We now see that the grand experiment of deregulation has ended, and ended badly. The deregulation movement is now an historical footnote, just another interest group, and once in power they turned into socialists. Indeed, judging by the actions of the conservatives in power, and not the empty rhetoric that comes out of think tanks, the conservative movement has effectively turned the United States into a massive Socialist state, an appendage of Communist Russia, China and Venezuela.

To paraphrase Floyd Norris, we have become Marxists, but of the Groucho, not Karl, variety . . .
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I will only add that I keep hearing this plan Paulson announced this morning being compared to the RTC rescue of the savings and loans in the 1980's. I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly, the RTC was set up to sort out assets of thrifts AFTER they had already failed and the FDIC had come in to take them over. In this case, we seem to be saying that the taxpayer will go ahead and buy all the crap the banks and brokers leveraged up to create and let them keep their decent assets so they can go back to business as usual. This is insane.
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TTBHG
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Post by TTBHG »

Absolutely, we(taxpayers) just bought all of those bad decisions made by these sompanies. I never, in my lifetime, thought this would happen.
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Post by annarborgator »

We live in interesting times, to be sure. I've moved beyond attempting to figure it all out or make sense of how it's coming down the pike at this point. I'm not sure about this step. I worry it will rock the dollar and kick start inflation in every sense.
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a1bion
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Post by a1bion »

Paulson's plan is even shittier than I had expected, now that we're learning details. It's basically "give me a $700 billion blank check to buy shitty assets at inflated prices from Wall St firms and let me do it with zero oversight or accountability." Screw that.
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Post by TTBHG »

The bad part is congress will approve it.
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a1bion
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Talk about your side effects: I just took a quick scan of the markets and oil is up over $17 and the dollar index was down nearly 2% on concern that throwing money at this mess is gonna kill the dollar.

Ugh.
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Post by annarborgator »

Hope China's OK with us diluting the dollar like this.
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Post by G8Rpmc »

Some days I feel like I'm watching a hurricane when it comes to this financial crisis. It's out there, and I don't know where it is heading, where it will go, and how much damage it may or may not cause. There are predictions, but I just don't know who or what to believe.

Just as scary as an impending hurricane to me. [img]{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif[/img]
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Post by MinGator »

good analogy.
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a1bion
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Post by a1bion »

Ritholtz has proposed naming the bailout program the Securitized Hybrid Investment Trust Bailout Plan.

And this has been making the rounds via email:
SUBJECT: REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP

DEAR AMERICAN:

I NEED TO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT AN URGENT SECRET BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH A TRANSFER OF FUNDS OF GREAT MAGNITUDE.

I AM MINISTRY OF THE TREASURY OF THE REPUBLIC OF AMERICA. MY COUNTRY HAS HAD CRISIS THAT HAS CAUSED THE NEED FOR LARGE TRANSFER OF FUNDS OF 800 BILLION DOLLARS US. IF YOU WOULD ASSIST ME IN THIS TRANSFER, IT WOULD BE MOST PROFITABLE TO YOU.

I AM WORKING WITH MR. PHIL GRAM, LOBBYIST FOR UBS, WHO WILL BE MY REPLACEMENT AS MINISTRY OF THE TREASURY IN JANUARY. AS A SENATOR, YOU MAY KNOW HIM AS THE LEADER OF THE AMERICAN BANKING DEREGULATION MOVEMENT IN THE 1990S. THIS TRANSACTIN IS 100% SAFE.

THIS IS A MATTER OF GREAT URGENCY. WE NEED A BLANK CHECK. WE NEED THE FUNDS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE CANNOT DIRECTLY TRANSFER THESE FUNDS IN THE NAMES OF OUR CLOSE FRIENDS BECAUSE WE ARE CONSTANTLY UNDER SURVEILLANCE. MY FAMILY LAWYER ADVISED ME THAT I SHOULD LOOK FOR A RELIABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY PERSON WHO WILL ACT AS A NEXT OF KIN SO THE FUNDS CAN BE TRANSFERRED.

PLEASE REPLY WITH ALL OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, IRA AND COLLEGE FUND ACCOUNT NUMBERS AND THOSE OF YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TO WALLSTREETBAILOUT@TREASURY.GOV SO THAT WE MAY TRANSFER YOUR COMMISSION FOR THIS TRANSACTION. AFTER I RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION, I WILL RESPOND WITH DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT SAFEGUARDS THAT WILL BE USED TO PROTECT THE FUNDS.

YOURS FAITHFULLY MINISTER OF TREASURY PAULSON

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Post by Toothy »

a1, that is the funniest thing ever.

It's a shame it's all true.
MinGator
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Post by MinGator »

laughing and crying at the same time.
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Post by UFgirlfan07 »

That's hilarious.
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