Looks like I was right all along about...

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:42 am

cnbc outing varitek, giambi, garciaparra, damon, pujols, gagne...........

TTBHG · Post by **TTBHG** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:42 am

besides, I don't think anyone believes that the ONLY these players in the report are the ones juicing, these are just the ones that got caught. You can claim hearsay, and that's fine, but tell me you don't believe it to be true w/ whoever gets mentioned. Just because it isn't everyone doesn't make the ones who are outed any less guilty.

If you read my posts, I said I think they ALL did it. It is still hearsay though. With the exception of the 5 or 6 guys that have actually tested positive. The rest of them will just claim bullshit and go on about their merry way. Two months from now you won't hear anything more about it and RC will still go into the Hall of Fame.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:43 am

disappointing about Pujols.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:43 am

mark prior, kerry wood

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:44 am

andruw jones is a juice bag hater.

no shit.

so is marcus giles, john rocker, and mike hampton.

guilty, probably guilty, and Hampton is from my hometown...he juiced his way into the big leagues.

TheTodd · Post by **TheTodd** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:44 am

playing the part of efbart in this thread, TheTodd

Fuck baseball.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:44 am

i would hope to see someone like varitek, millar, timlin, foulke or youkalis.
Not gonna happen. I will bet you a dinner at Nobu when I am up there that it doesn't happen.

there ya have it dude.

varitek, garciaparra, clemens, damon....all redsox dog.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:46 am

well...rad...two of them are now yanks, and one is a dodger.

TTBHG · Post by **TTBHG** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:46 am

cnbc outing varitek, giambi, garciaparra, damon, pujols, gagne...........

Giambi we all knew about. Pujols would surprise me, he is a notorious gym rat and has had the same physique for years. The ones you look at are the ones who went thru major body changes. i.e. Bonds, who was 160 pounds and balloned up to 220 in six weeks.

ARod would surprise me as well, same reason as Pujols.

Garciaparra and Damon surprise me. They are little guys

Gagne's name has been out for years, he got way worse once MLB started testing

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:46 am

oh and TT - the only way you're getting into nobu is if you've got a mop and a bucket.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:47 am

well...rad...two of them are now yanks, and one is a dodger.

when they did it though.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:47 am

cnbc outing varitek, giambi, garciaparra, damon, pujols, gagne...........

Giambi we all knew about. Pujols would surprise me, he is a notorious gym rat and has had the same physique for years. The ones you look at are the ones who went thru major body changes. i.e. Bonds, who was 160 pounds and balloned up to 220 in six weeks.

ARod would surprise me as well, same reason as Pujols.

Garciaparra and Damon surprise me. They are little guys

Gagne's name has been out for years, he got way worse once MLB started testing

damon is a neanderthal.

TheTodd · Post by **TheTodd** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:48 am

Just because guys are little doesn't mean they don't juice, they just don't abuse it possibly. They could be taking it for its recovery benefits, especially with any nagging injuries. Steroids can be taken safely and not cause you to balloon up like Bonds.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:50 am

I agree on Gagne, that is not a surprise at all.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:50 am

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, DarrylKile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, IJason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:51 am

is that the full list rad? link???

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:53 am

a lot of that list is unimpressive and unsurprising...and not that damagign to the yanks either, from what I can see.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:54 am

i don't have a link hater.

this is being passed around i'm told since 8AM this morning...i'm just receiving it now.

wall street is funny like that.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:54 am

Trot Nixon in there as well....another BoSox

a1bion · Post by **a1bion** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:55 am

Any Devil Rays players on the list? I bet not. We suck.

TTBHG · Post by **TTBHG** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:54 pm

FYI, Tim Kurkjian(sp?) said on Cowherd just now that the list that is floating around has inaccuracies on it. He said wait until the official list is released. Even still though, that list is a tiny fraction of actual steriod users. I still thinks it makes no difference eitherway. None of them will be suspended and some will still end up in the HOF.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:58 pm

agreed, TT.

radbag · Post by **radbag** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:06 pm

i feel bad for ken griffey jr.

if he was on the clear and the cream, he'd be still playing effectively.

annarborgator · Post by **annarborgator** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:02 pm

dude, griffey played 144 games this season. 30 jacks and 90+ rbi. only hit .277 but still pretty damn effective.

IHateUGAlyDawgs · Post by **IHateUGAlyDawgs** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:07 pm

dude, griffey played 144 games this season. 30 jacks and 90+ rbi. only hit .277 but still pretty damn effective.

yeah but he lost five years probably due to injuries